Here is a somewhat more complete roster from PCGS CoinFacts showing the provenance of this 1794 Lord St Oswald dollar and the other top examples.
It includes Jimmy Hayes and Brent Pogue as @EastonCollection mentioned. Also Alfred Ostheimer.
It does not show Simpson, because it's somewhat out of date.
I like the general concept of naming a top coin based on the person who owned it for the longest time.
Here is my 1875 Liberty Gold Eagle PCGS AU-53. This coin is in a PCGS old green holder (OGH) and has a population of 2 with only 1 coin graded higher at AU 53+.
This coin was ranked #96 in the first edition of the 100 Greatest US Coins book, but it is no longer included in the latest edition of the book.
Ron Guth:
In 1875, the Philadelphia Mint produced a mere 100 $10 gold pieces, making this the lowest mintage of any U.S. coin made for circulation. The number of survivors has been the source of much speculation in the past, much of it based on auction records and "gut instinct". In 1980, David Akers wrote that "...no more than 5-6 business strikes (including two of horrendously low quality) are known along with perhaps 7-8 proofs." Recent estimates have ranged from a dozen to possibly 15 known examples, making the 1875 $10 circulation strike at least as rare as the 1804 Silver Dollar. Despite, its extreme rarity, the 1875 $10 is one of the most affordable coins in its class, only recently having broken the $100,000 barrier, yet falling far short of more recognized coins such as the 1804 Silver Dollar, the 1913 Liberty Nickel, and the 1894-S Dime. The 1875 $10 simply has not received the same amount of publicity as the afore-mentioned rarities.
According to Breen, the date on both circulation strikes and proofs is low in the space between Liberty's bust and the edge of the coin. On circulation strikes, the left base of the 1 is right of center of a denticle; on proofs, the left base of the 1 is over the left edge of a denticle and the top of the second stripe is weak on the reverse. An additional differentiating mark may be a small spike coming out of the denticles below the 7 of the date on proofs. This spike does not seem to appear on circulation strikes, but more coins should be examined in person before this spike is determined to be diagnostic.
Most 1875 eagles feature prooflike luster in the protected areas, but virtually all show moderate to heavy bagmarks.
@EliteCollection - All amazing coins! For number 18, you listed the common date 1879 Flowing Hair Stella. I noticed that you have a 1879 Coiled Hair Stella as well. I would have post the Coiled Hair over the Flowing Hair based on Rarity and just coolness? Is there a back story for why you posted the Flowing Hair that you wish to share?
@EastonCollection said: @EliteCollection - All amazing coins! For number 18, you listed the common date 1879 Flowing Hair Stella. I noticed that you have a 1879 Coiled Hair Stella as well. I would have post the Coiled Hair over the Flowing Hair based on Rarity and just coolness? Is there a back story for why you posted the Flowing Hair that you wish to share?
It's only because the flowing hair is 67+ and the coiled hair is 66+. The set registry assigns more points to the flowing hair due to the grade even though the coiled hair is more rare and valuable.
I can switch it to the coiled hair, but when/if I do auto-allocate, it will switch it back to the higher points coins.
LOL- Us collectors have to educate the coin software developers which should be getting more points. Its clear to me and most others that Coiled Hair Stellas should be getting more points. What are the thinking?
What is your impression of the 1875 Eagles surfaces? Is it worth cracking to investigate/treat the surface contamination. Looks like turning putty but I could be wrong. Either way it is typically inert so not as dangerous as PVC. Still a hell of a coin and thank you it has been a privilege to view your collection and passion.
What is your impression of the 1875 Eagles surfaces? Is it worth cracking to investigate/treat the surface contamination. Looks like turning putty but I could be wrong. Either way it is typically inert so not as dangerous as PVC. Still a hell of a coin and thank you it has been a privilege to view your collection and passion.
I sent a classic head gold coin to CAC with a similar look and it came back with a little sticker that said "PVC". The holder was about 10 years newer than the OGH pictured. Not making any assumptions, but that was just my experience.
Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
The 1856 Flying Eagle cent is a very important coin in American history, as it was very instrumental in popularizing coin collecting throughout America in the late 1800’s.
The 1856 Flying Eagle cents were initially struck as presentation pieces and to introduce them to members of Congress and other dignitaries. Records indicate that at least 634 examples were produced for this purpose alone. However, in the ensuing months, it is believed that additional examples were produced at different intervals, so that they can also be presented to additional government dignitaries. Furthermore, it is believed that other examples of the 1856 Flying eaglree cents were struck for collectors who were aware of the coins and desired one of their own. These examples eventually made it into circulation. Consequently, some refer to all 1856 cents as patterns, since they were struck primarily for presentation purposes. Others, consider some of the 1856 Flying Eagle cents circulation strike coins, since they were produced in large quantities and were eventually released into circulation. Regardless if some of coins are considered circulation strikes or patterns, the coins are historical relics of American history, as, they attracted some of America's first and most dedicated coin collectors.
It is not known exactly how many 1856 cents were produced, but estimates range anywhere from 1,500 to about 2,150 examples. Whatever the exact figure is, one thing is for certain. There has never been enough coins in existence to meet the high demand. One of the clearest indications of the 1856 Flying Eagle cent's popularity, is the prices they command when they do become available. Even in the lowest grades such as Good-4, most examples will command thousands of dollars and even much more when they remain in higher condition.
Beautiful piece! Yours is the S-9 variety. While none of these are common, this type is somewhat “available”. PCGS recently updated their PG, raising valuation from $36k to $55k.
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I don’t know if ‘pass’ was facetious or not but this is the first coin you’ve posted where I thought you settled.
It was not facetious but I am a cent snob. I added the 😜 for politeness. 😜
Usually in high end proof sets and type sets like this I see cents that are not equivalent to the set as a whole. This coin is no exception. Let’s just come out and say it: Copper weenies hold all the good copper and it is HARD TO FIND in short order. Of all the numismatic metals, copper is the toughest. Hands down.
Edited to add: S-9??? It wasn’t even minted in 1856!
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I don’t know if ‘pass’ was facetious or not but this is the first coin you’ve posted where I thought you settled.
Based on the funds the OP has I am sure he can replace the 1856 with ease. Maybe he likes the coin and is happy with it. Certainly not a money thing based on the coins he has shown.
Per Rick Snow: “the S-9 is the most commonly encountered 1856 flying eagle”. These were actually minted in latter 1857 up to perhaps 1860. The main reason for this was to satisfy collector demand for this new design. The fact that it wasn’t “even minted in 1856!” is irrelevant.
The 1796 quarter was the first U.S. quarter. It is also a one year only type coin...Draped Bust, small eagle...and the only U.S. quarter struck in the 18th century. This is a rare coin in all grades. However, it is available in mint state condition since in the early part of the 20th century coin collector/hoarder extraordinaire Col. E. H. R. Green aquired a hoard of as many as 100 uncirculated specimens.
P. Scott Rubin:
The 1796 Quarter Dollar is a rare coin with a reported mintage of only 6,146 coins. It is a one year type coin and the only denomination of U.S. coinage issued for circulation which was not produced the year following its first issue. In fact it would take eight years before the second date quarter dollar was issued. This unique occurrence seems to have an effect on the survival rate for the 1796 quarter, it appears many were saved and more then would be expected were saved in pristine condition.
Let us not think that this makes this coin common, even with a more than expected survival rate this coin is not available in numbers that would appease the collectors who wish to own one today. Only to collectors with ample resources is this coin available. Only twenty to forty-five quarters of 1796 have been offered at auction in any of the last ten years in any grade. In the same time period only two to seven coins graded Uncirculated were offered per year. More historic research tends to show that on average since the mid-1850’s this coin appears on average of fifteen times a year in all grades and only two coins a year in Uncirculated at auction. This is why this one year type coin commands high prices.
@EliteCollection - I was wondering which example you acquired for your cabinet - the Pogue example or the Firefox-Simpson example. Both coins are truly amazing and the creme de la creme. Your 1796 Quarter is another very special coin in US numismatics. I was looking at this quarter prior to the Pogue sale and Brett Pogue asked me what I thought about his quarter and all I said is "My head is about to explode" as I was in awe! Then he asked me which was my favorite 1796 quarter. We both agreed that the Firefox/Simpson and his were a tie even though both had totally different looks.
I am an early silver guy and I am just loving all your coins especially the pre-1840 examples.
In 1872, William Barber produced a relatively large number of pattern coins, including so-called "commercial dollars" (precursors of the 1873 trade dollars); "Amazonian" quarters, half dollars, and dollars with a partially nude seated Liberty; and "Amazonian" gold coin patterns that showed just the head of Liberty.
The Amazonian gold coin set included patterns for a $1 piece, quarter eagle, $3 piece, half eagle, eagle, and double eagle. Two sets were struck in aluminum, and one set was struck in gold.
The first mention of this spectacular set came in 1886, when Robert Coulton Davis included it in a list of known pattern coins. Later the set came into the possession of William Woodin, who was later a secretary of the Treasury and coauthor of the Adams-Woodin pattern reference book. Subsequently, the set was dispersed, with the gold dollar going one way and the other five coins becoming part of King Farouk's collection. When the Farouk collection sold at auction in 1954, Dr. John Wilkison purchased all of the Amazonian gold pattern coins (there offered as individual lots), paying the equivalent of $2,583 for the double eagle alone, the highest price of any coin in the sale. Eight years later, in 1962, Wilkison purchased the gold dollar, finally reuniting all of the coins in this unique set.
Note: The set referenced in the 100 Greatest US Coins book in slot #15 is the unique gold set. What I have here is the gilt set, although still extremely rare, it is not the same as the prestigious gold set. Both the PCGS Set Registry and the MyCollect Registry accepts off-metal coins in this slot.
The 1796 quarter was the first U.S. quarter. It is also a one year only type coin...Draped Bust, small eagle...and the only U.S. quarter struck in the 18th century. This is a rare coin in all grades. However, it is available in mint state condition since in the early part of the 20th century coin collector/hoarder extraordinaire Col. E. H. R. Green aquired a hoard of as many as 100 uncirculated specimens.
P. Scott Rubin:
The 1796 Quarter Dollar is a rare coin with a reported mintage of only 6,146 coins. It is a one year type coin and the only denomination of U.S. coinage issued for circulation which was not produced the year following its first issue. In fact it would take eight years before the second date quarter dollar was issued. This unique occurrence seems to have an effect on the survival rate for the 1796 quarter, it appears many were saved and more then would be expected were saved in pristine condition.
Let us not think that this makes this coin common, even with a more than expected survival rate this coin is not available in numbers that would appease the collectors who wish to own one today. Only to collectors with ample resources is this coin available. Only twenty to forty-five quarters of 1796 have been offered at auction in any of the last ten years in any grade. In the same time period only two to seven coins graded Uncirculated were offered per year. More historic research tends to show that on average since the mid-1850’s this coin appears on average of fifteen times a year in all grades and only two coins a year in Uncirculated at auction. This is why this one year type coin commands high prices.
1796 25C Browning 2 PCGS MS 66 CAC (Pop 3/1)
Seeing this coin is a religious experience and I might even be an atheist!
The 1796 and 1797 half dollars comprise a classic U.S. rarity. Their mintages were comingled in the Mint records, and the total number of coins for both dates is a mere 3,918 pieces. This minuscule number reflects the scarcity of silver in the early days of the Mint. Factor in the coins that were lost or destroyed, and the number of survivors becomes significantly small, At the time, depositors of silver bullion at the Mint could request the denomination(s) desired, and most requests were for silver dollars, to the detriment of half dollars.
Mint records indicate that no half dollars were delivered in 1796. Numismatic historians speculate that half dollars may have been struck in 1796, but not delivered by the coiner until early 1797, when 934 half dollars were recorded The coins in the later delivery of half dollars, in May of 1797, are all believed to be 1797-dated coins. The earliest 1796 half dollars show 15 stars on the front of the coin, representing each of the states then in the Union. Later versions show 16 stars, reflecting the expected admission of Tennessee as a state in 1797.
Most 1796 and 1797 half dollars known today are well circulated. Collectors are willing to accept examples in just about any grade, including coins that have been professionally repaired (holes filled, scratches removed)-coins they would not accept were the 1796 and 1797 half dollar more widely available. A few Uncirculated 1796 and 1797 half dollars are known to exist, some of which are in amazing states of preservation. When a portion of the Pogue Collection was sold in 2015, the finest known 1796, an MS-66, sold for $822,500; the 1797 MS-66 fetched $1,527,500.
This coin is so stunning that it defines its own ranking, I think the concept of being graded higher or lower kind of loses its meaning and this coin just stands on its merits.
@EliteCollection = Love those early halves and your 1797 example has high appeal and some wear from usage. Still in a high state of preservation. I think thats so cool.
This coin was ranked #90 in the first edition of the 100 Greatest US Coins book, but it is no longer included in the latest edition of the book.
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1819 Half Eagles are represented by two distinct die varieties: 1819 (Close Date, Normal Reverse) and 1819 5D/50. Both varieties are rare, but the Close Date is definitely the rarer of the two (none have appeared at auction in the past decade). The 5D/50 variety includes five to six Mint State examples, the finest of which is a single PCGS MS65.
The rarity of 1819 Half Eagles resulted from the destruction of large quantities of early U.S. gold coins whenever their gold value exceeded their face value in the 1800s. Were it not for coin collectors, the destruction would have been more widespread.
Another WOW coin! I love the early half Eagle and they are gorgeous coins and each date/variety are quite rare. Your coin is no exception. There are about 10 or more of the early half Eagles dates/varieties included (10% of the coins) in the book and I feel, that less half Eagle should have been included in the book (top 100) and other coins included such as 1794 Half dollar, 1796 dime, 1793 half cent, Judd- 17 -1794 $1 struck in copper without stars and the Judd 44 - 1814 Capped Bust half struck in Platinum with the letter P stamped on the coin. These are more scarce, cooler looking, carries more US history, collected by collectors and investors and discussed with dealers and collectors more frequently. I don't want to minimize your cabinet as its awesome plus and I guess my comment should be directed to the author's opinion of the book and their selection process. I will say it again, this thread is so cool and thank you for sharing your cabinet with us!
The proposal for a U.S. fifty dollar gold piece was initiated in California in 1854. Businessmen in San Francisco sent a petition to Secretary of the Treasury James Guthrie requesting him to authorize the striking at San Francisco Mint of a fifty dollar gold piece of the same shape and fineness as the regular U.S. double eagle. The denomination would greatly have facilitated counting operations in California since no banknotes of any denomination were in circulation there. Guthrie approved of the idea and a measure authorizing a one hundred dollar gold piece (a union) and a fifty dollar gold piece (a half union) was introduced in the Senate by California Senator William Gwin. The measure passed the Senate on June 16, 1854 but was defeated in the House, probably because such denominations were not needed in the East where paper currency was readily available.
It was a known fact that two fifty dollar gold pieces of differing designs had been struck at the U.S. Mint in 1877, but R.C. Davis, in his pattern listing of May, 1886 in The Coin Collector's Journal, stated that "of these extraordinary patterns one specimen only, of each variety was struck in gold for the cabinet of the U.S. Mint, but owing to the lack of appropriation they were rejected, and melted up by the Superintendent and Coiner." In 1909, however, they turned up in the collection of William H. Woodin who no doubt had obtained them directly from the Mint. Capt. John W. Haseltine and Stephen K. Nagy of Philadelphia sold both pieces to William Wooding of New York for a reported $10,000 each, a record price at the time.
Note: The coin referenced in the 100 Greatest US Coins book in slot #8 is the gold Half Union with only 2 in existence. Both coins are now housed in the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian Institution.
The proposal for a U.S. fifty dollar gold piece was initiated in California in 1854. Businessmen in San Francisco sent a petition to Secretary of the Treasury James Guthrie requesting him to authorize the striking at San Francisco Mint of a fifty dollar gold piece of the same shape and fineness as the regular U.S. double eagle. The denomination would greatly have facilitated counting operations in California since no banknotes of any denomination were in circulation there. Guthrie approved of the idea and a measure authorizing a one hundred dollar gold piece (a union) and a fifty dollar gold piece (a half union) was introduced in the Senate by California Senator William Gwin. The measure passed the Senate on June 16, 1854 but was defeated in the House, probably because such denominations were not needed in the East where paper currency was readily available.
It was a known fact that two fifty dollar gold pieces of differing designs had been struck at the U.S. Mint in 1877, but R.C. Davis, in his pattern listing of May, 1886 in The Coin Collector's Journal, stated that "of these extraordinary patterns one specimen only, of each variety was struck in gold for the cabinet of the U.S. Mint, but owing to the lack of appropriation they were rejected, and melted up by the Superintendent and Coiner." In 1909, however, they turned up in the collection of William H. Woodin who no doubt had obtained them directly from the Mint. Capt. John W. Haseltine and Stephen K. Nagy of Philadelphia sold both pieces to William Wooding of New York for a reported $10,000 each, a record price at the time.
Note: The coin referenced in the 100 Greatest US Coins book in slot #8 is the gold Half Union with only 2 in existence. Both coins are now housed in the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian Institution.
1877 $50 Half Union Gilt PCGS PR 63 (Pop 4/1)
That is the coin that I have most wanted for many years.
I recall years ago reading that Abe Kosoff showed another sophisticated numismatist over a dozen mixture of lustrous Uncirc and prooflike 1796 quarters wrapped up in a folded cloth.
Back in the early 1960’s at Stack’s Milton Holmes auction, which I attended, a gem prooflike 1796 quarter sold for $3000 when the market was apprx $1500 at the time. As I recall New Yorker Bill Wild bought it, a gentle thin giant of a man who used his gem Unc half disme repeatedy as collaterol to afford such coins.Bill had impeccable numismatic taste but a very limited wallet.
This was at a time when grades were Uncirculated or Choice Uncirculated and white was in, toning was out. Many beautifully toned coins were being dipped!
Prior to the Pogue sale, PCGS graded the Pogue coins and used specially designed gold foil labels. It was determined that the gold labels overpowered the silver and especially the gold coins so PCGS changed the labels to silver foil label. Here is me looking at your 1796 quarter and 1794 dollar. Just a quick story on the how the Pogue came to market. Afterwards, they were sent to CAC. The coins are still my favorites...
The $5 1834 Proof Classic Head Half Eagle is exceedingly rare. Most experts agree that less than a dozen exist but most estimates are that about half a dozen are known today. No Mint records exist of these coins being struck. However, in 1834 the U.S. Mint stuck at least 2 coin sets which included the $5 1834 Proofs to present as gifts to two different world leaders. therefore, any example in any condition is very rare. These are just some extraordinary coins to say the least.
This coin was ranked #82 in the first edition of the 100 Greatest US Coins book, but it is no longer included in the latest edition of the book.
Ron Guth:
The 1852 "Original" Silver Dollar Proof is a rather confusing item. Walter Breen, in the 1989 edition of his Encyclopedia of United States and Colonial Proof Coins: 1722-1989, lists three die pairs for Original 1852 Silver Dollars, all with the same obverse combined with three different reverses. His first die pair (B-1) combines what appears to be the same dies that were used on circulation strikes. If this is true, this would be a correct use of the term "Original," but it also means that all Proof 1853 Silver Dollars, whether Original or Restrike, were made from the circulation strike obverse that had been proofed In his second "Original" die pair (B-2), Breen reports the reverse die used on Proofs from 1840-1849. On his third "Original" die pair (B-3), he reports a reverse with a diagonal line slanting down (WNW through ESE on the compass) through the first five white stripes. 1852 "Restrike" Dollars combine the same obverse with an 1858-59 reverse.
In 1993, Q. David Bowers listed six different Proof reverses for 1852 Silver Dollars, comprising three Originals and three Restrikes.
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Another wonderful coin with a great history. WOW!
Here is a somewhat more complete roster from PCGS CoinFacts showing the provenance of this 1794 Lord St Oswald dollar and the other top examples.
It includes Jimmy Hayes and Brent Pogue as @EastonCollection mentioned. Also Alfred Ostheimer.
It does not show Simpson, because it's somewhat out of date.
I like the general concept of naming a top coin based on the person who owned it for the longest time.
Here is my 1875 Liberty Gold Eagle PCGS AU-53. This coin is in a PCGS old green holder (OGH) and has a population of 2 with only 1 coin graded higher at AU 53+.
This coin was ranked #96 in the first edition of the 100 Greatest US Coins book, but it is no longer included in the latest edition of the book.
Ron Guth:
In 1875, the Philadelphia Mint produced a mere 100 $10 gold pieces, making this the lowest mintage of any U.S. coin made for circulation. The number of survivors has been the source of much speculation in the past, much of it based on auction records and "gut instinct". In 1980, David Akers wrote that "...no more than 5-6 business strikes (including two of horrendously low quality) are known along with perhaps 7-8 proofs." Recent estimates have ranged from a dozen to possibly 15 known examples, making the 1875 $10 circulation strike at least as rare as the 1804 Silver Dollar. Despite, its extreme rarity, the 1875 $10 is one of the most affordable coins in its class, only recently having broken the $100,000 barrier, yet falling far short of more recognized coins such as the 1804 Silver Dollar, the 1913 Liberty Nickel, and the 1894-S Dime. The 1875 $10 simply has not received the same amount of publicity as the afore-mentioned rarities.
According to Breen, the date on both circulation strikes and proofs is low in the space between Liberty's bust and the edge of the coin. On circulation strikes, the left base of the 1 is right of center of a denticle; on proofs, the left base of the 1 is over the left edge of a denticle and the top of the second stripe is weak on the reverse. An additional differentiating mark may be a small spike coming out of the denticles below the 7 of the date on proofs. This spike does not seem to appear on circulation strikes, but more coins should be examined in person before this spike is determined to be diagnostic.
Most 1875 eagles feature prooflike luster in the protected areas, but virtually all show moderate to heavy bagmarks.
1875 $10 PCGS AU 53 (Pop 2/1)
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Stuff of legends man. Great coins!
@EliteCollection - All amazing coins! For number 18, you listed the common date 1879 Flowing Hair Stella. I noticed that you have a 1879 Coiled Hair Stella as well. I would have post the Coiled Hair over the Flowing Hair based on Rarity and just coolness? Is there a back story for why you posted the Flowing Hair that you wish to share?
Awesome coin overload!
Well done!
It's only because the flowing hair is 67+ and the coiled hair is 66+. The set registry assigns more points to the flowing hair due to the grade even though the coiled hair is more rare and valuable.
I can switch it to the coiled hair, but when/if I do auto-allocate, it will switch it back to the higher points coins.
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LOL- Us collectors have to educate the coin software developers which should be getting more points. Its clear to me and most others that Coiled Hair Stellas should be getting more points. What are the thinking?
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What is your impression of the 1875 Eagles surfaces? Is it worth cracking to investigate/treat the surface contamination. Looks like turning putty but I could be wrong. Either way it is typically inert so not as dangerous as PVC. Still a hell of a coin and thank you it has been a privilege to view your collection and passion.
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I sent a classic head gold coin to CAC with a similar look and it came back with a little sticker that said "PVC". The holder was about 10 years newer than the OGH pictured. Not making any assumptions, but that was just my experience.
Thank you for sharing your collection. Amazing!!
Here is my 1856 Flying Eagle Cent PCGS Proof-65 (CAC Green). This coin has a population of 61 with 13 coins graded higher.
This coin is #70 in my set "Elite's 100 Greatest U.S. Coins".
Jaime Hernandez:
The 1856 Flying Eagle cent is a very important coin in American history, as it was very instrumental in popularizing coin collecting throughout America in the late 1800’s.
The 1856 Flying Eagle cents were initially struck as presentation pieces and to introduce them to members of Congress and other dignitaries. Records indicate that at least 634 examples were produced for this purpose alone. However, in the ensuing months, it is believed that additional examples were produced at different intervals, so that they can also be presented to additional government dignitaries. Furthermore, it is believed that other examples of the 1856 Flying eaglree cents were struck for collectors who were aware of the coins and desired one of their own. These examples eventually made it into circulation. Consequently, some refer to all 1856 cents as patterns, since they were struck primarily for presentation purposes. Others, consider some of the 1856 Flying Eagle cents circulation strike coins, since they were produced in large quantities and were eventually released into circulation. Regardless if some of coins are considered circulation strikes or patterns, the coins are historical relics of American history, as, they attracted some of America's first and most dedicated coin collectors.
It is not known exactly how many 1856 cents were produced, but estimates range anywhere from 1,500 to about 2,150 examples. Whatever the exact figure is, one thing is for certain. There has never been enough coins in existence to meet the high demand. One of the clearest indications of the 1856 Flying Eagle cent's popularity, is the prices they command when they do become available. Even in the lowest grades such as Good-4, most examples will command thousands of dollars and even much more when they remain in higher condition.
1856 1C Flying Eagle PCGS PR 65 CAC (Pop 61/13)
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Very nice coins again! Do you happen to have the uncirculated version as well?
No, I don't have one yet.
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Beautiful piece! Yours is the S-9 variety. While none of these are common, this type is somewhat “available”. PCGS recently updated their PG, raising valuation from $36k to $55k.
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Yeah, such a low grade flying eagle cent.
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I don’t know if ‘pass’ was facetious or not but this is the first coin you’ve posted where I thought you settled.
It was not facetious but I am a cent snob. I added the 😜 for politeness. 😜
Usually in high end proof sets and type sets like this I see cents that are not equivalent to the set as a whole. This coin is no exception. Let’s just come out and say it: Copper weenies hold all the good copper and it is HARD TO FIND in short order. Of all the numismatic metals, copper is the toughest. Hands down.
Edited to add: S-9??? It wasn’t even minted in 1856!
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Based on the funds the OP has I am sure he can replace the 1856 with ease. Maybe he likes the coin and is happy with it. Certainly not a money thing based on the coins he has shown.
Per Rick Snow: “the S-9 is the most commonly encountered 1856 flying eagle”. These were actually minted in latter 1857 up to perhaps 1860. The main reason for this was to satisfy collector demand for this new design. The fact that it wasn’t “even minted in 1856!” is irrelevant.
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I actually haven't been able to find a coin to upgrade to. There were a few 65+'s, but I was looking for a 66 and haven't found one yet.
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Here is my 1796 Draped Bust Quarter Browning 2 PCGS MS-66 (CAC Green). This coin has a population of 3 with only 1 coin graded higher at MS 67. The coin is pedigreed to D. Brent Pogue.
This coin is #69 in my set "Elite's 100 Greatest U.S. Coins".
David Hall:
The 1796 quarter was the first U.S. quarter. It is also a one year only type coin...Draped Bust, small eagle...and the only U.S. quarter struck in the 18th century. This is a rare coin in all grades. However, it is available in mint state condition since in the early part of the 20th century coin collector/hoarder extraordinaire Col. E. H. R. Green aquired a hoard of as many as 100 uncirculated specimens.
P. Scott Rubin:
The 1796 Quarter Dollar is a rare coin with a reported mintage of only 6,146 coins. It is a one year type coin and the only denomination of U.S. coinage issued for circulation which was not produced the year following its first issue. In fact it would take eight years before the second date quarter dollar was issued. This unique occurrence seems to have an effect on the survival rate for the 1796 quarter, it appears many were saved and more then would be expected were saved in pristine condition.
Let us not think that this makes this coin common, even with a more than expected survival rate this coin is not available in numbers that would appease the collectors who wish to own one today. Only to collectors with ample resources is this coin available. Only twenty to forty-five quarters of 1796 have been offered at auction in any of the last ten years in any grade. In the same time period only two to seven coins graded Uncirculated were offered per year. More historic research tends to show that on average since the mid-1850’s this coin appears on average of fifteen times a year in all grades and only two coins a year in Uncirculated at auction. This is why this one year type coin commands high prices.
1796 25C Browning 2 PCGS MS 66 CAC (Pop 3/1)
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Woooooooowza what a coin 😍
It's not often you see cleavage like that on a draped bust, one hell of a strike!
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@EliteCollection - I was wondering which example you acquired for your cabinet - the Pogue example or the Firefox-Simpson example. Both coins are truly amazing and the creme de la creme. Your 1796 Quarter is another very special coin in US numismatics. I was looking at this quarter prior to the Pogue sale and Brett Pogue asked me what I thought about his quarter and all I said is "My head is about to explode" as I was in awe! Then he asked me which was my favorite 1796 quarter. We both agreed that the Firefox/Simpson and his were a tie even though both had totally different looks.
I am an early silver guy and I am just loving all your coins especially the pre-1840 examples.
This coin is a monster - saw the entire quarter set one time at Larry Hanks’ show table. The stuff that dreams are made of!
Stunning/amazing/beautiful. Dream coin!
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PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
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Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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from PCGS CoinFacts https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1796-25c/5310
More of the roster and provenance of this coin; quite amazing in that photo.
I feel like I'm watching a Van Gogh. That's a fanrastic piece of art. Congratulations.
Here is my 1872 Amazonian Gilt Set of 6 coins: G$1, $2.50, $3, $5, $10, and $20. Each coin in this set is pedigreed to Harry W. Bass Jr.
This set is #15 in my set "Elite's 100 Greatest U.S. Coins".
100 Greatest US Coins 6th Edition:
In 1872, William Barber produced a relatively large number of pattern coins, including so-called "commercial dollars" (precursors of the 1873 trade dollars); "Amazonian" quarters, half dollars, and dollars with a partially nude seated Liberty; and "Amazonian" gold coin patterns that showed just the head of Liberty.
The Amazonian gold coin set included patterns for a $1 piece, quarter eagle, $3 piece, half eagle, eagle, and double eagle. Two sets were struck in aluminum, and one set was struck in gold.
The first mention of this spectacular set came in 1886, when Robert Coulton Davis included it in a list of known pattern coins. Later the set came into the possession of William Woodin, who was later a secretary of the Treasury and coauthor of the Adams-Woodin pattern reference book. Subsequently, the set was dispersed, with the gold dollar going one way and the other five coins becoming part of King Farouk's collection. When the Farouk collection sold at auction in 1954, Dr. John Wilkison purchased all of the Amazonian gold pattern coins (there offered as individual lots), paying the equivalent of $2,583 for the double eagle alone, the highest price of any coin in the sale. Eight years later, in 1962, Wilkison purchased the gold dollar, finally reuniting all of the coins in this unique set.
Note: The set referenced in the 100 Greatest US Coins book in slot #15 is the unique gold set. What I have here is the gilt set, although still extremely rare, it is not the same as the prestigious gold set. Both the PCGS Set Registry and the MyCollect Registry accepts off-metal coins in this slot.
1872 $1 Amazonian Gilt PCGS Proof-63 (Pop 1/2)
1872 $2.50 Amazonian Gilt PCGS Proof-63 (CAC Green) (Pop 2/1)
1872 $3 Amazonian Gilt PCGS Proof-63 (Pop 1/2)
1872 $5 Amazonian Gilt PCGS Proof-62 (CAC Green) (Pop 2/1)
1872 $10 Amazonian Gilt PCGS Proof-64 (Pop 2/0)
1872 $20 Amazonian Gilt PCGS Proof-63 (Pop 1/1)
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Seeing this coin is a religious experience and I might even be an atheist!
the 1794 has fantastic eye appeal
great eye appeal on the quarter too
Here is my 1797 Draped Bust Half Dollar PCGS XF-45. This coin has a population of 6 with 12 coins graded higher.
This coin is #66 in my set "Elite's 100 Greatest U.S. Coins".
100 Greatest US Coins 6th Edition:
The 1796 and 1797 half dollars comprise a classic U.S. rarity. Their mintages were comingled in the Mint records, and the total number of coins for both dates is a mere 3,918 pieces. This minuscule number reflects the scarcity of silver in the early days of the Mint. Factor in the coins that were lost or destroyed, and the number of survivors becomes significantly small, At the time, depositors of silver bullion at the Mint could request the denomination(s) desired, and most requests were for silver dollars, to the detriment of half dollars.
Mint records indicate that no half dollars were delivered in 1796. Numismatic historians speculate that half dollars may have been struck in 1796, but not delivered by the coiner until early 1797, when 934 half dollars were recorded The coins in the later delivery of half dollars, in May of 1797, are all believed to be 1797-dated coins. The earliest 1796 half dollars show 15 stars on the front of the coin, representing each of the states then in the Union. Later versions show 16 stars, reflecting the expected admission of Tennessee as a state in 1797.
Most 1796 and 1797 half dollars known today are well circulated. Collectors are willing to accept examples in just about any grade, including coins that have been professionally repaired (holes filled, scratches removed)-coins they would not accept were the 1796 and 1797 half dollar more widely available. A few Uncirculated 1796 and 1797 half dollars are known to exist, some of which are in amazing states of preservation. When a portion of the Pogue Collection was sold in 2015, the finest known 1796, an MS-66, sold for $822,500; the 1797 MS-66 fetched $1,527,500.
1797 50C PCGS XF 45 (Pop 6/12)
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This coin is so stunning that it defines its own ranking, I think the concept of being graded higher or lower kind of loses its meaning and this coin just stands on its merits.
@EliteCollection = Love those early halves and your 1797 example has high appeal and some wear from usage. Still in a high state of preservation. I think thats so cool.
Here is my 1819 Capped Head Gold Half Eagle 5D/50 PCGS MS-64 (CAC Green). This coin has a population of 1 with only 2 coins graded higher at MS 65.
This coin was ranked #90 in the first edition of the 100 Greatest US Coins book, but it is no longer included in the latest edition of the book.
Ron Guth:
1819 Half Eagles are represented by two distinct die varieties: 1819 (Close Date, Normal Reverse) and 1819 5D/50. Both varieties are rare, but the Close Date is definitely the rarer of the two (none have appeared at auction in the past decade). The 5D/50 variety includes five to six Mint State examples, the finest of which is a single PCGS MS65.
The rarity of 1819 Half Eagles resulted from the destruction of large quantities of early U.S. gold coins whenever their gold value exceeded their face value in the 1800s. Were it not for coin collectors, the destruction would have been more widespread.
1819 $5 5D/50 PCGS MS 64 (Pop 1/2)
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Another WOW coin! I love the early half Eagle and they are gorgeous coins and each date/variety are quite rare. Your coin is no exception. There are about 10 or more of the early half Eagles dates/varieties included (10% of the coins) in the book and I feel, that less half Eagle should have been included in the book (top 100) and other coins included such as 1794 Half dollar, 1796 dime, 1793 half cent, Judd- 17 -1794 $1 struck in copper without stars and the Judd 44 - 1814 Capped Bust half struck in Platinum with the letter P stamped on the coin. These are more scarce, cooler looking, carries more US history, collected by collectors and investors and discussed with dealers and collectors more frequently. I don't want to minimize your cabinet as its awesome plus and I guess my comment should be directed to the author's opinion of the book and their selection process. I will say it again, this thread is so cool and thank you for sharing your cabinet with us!
Here is my 1877 $50 Half Union Gilt PCGS Proof-63. This coin has a population of 4 with only 1 coin graded higher at PR 64.
This coin is #8 in my set "Elite's 100 Greatest U.S. Coins".
David Akers:
The proposal for a U.S. fifty dollar gold piece was initiated in California in 1854. Businessmen in San Francisco sent a petition to Secretary of the Treasury James Guthrie requesting him to authorize the striking at San Francisco Mint of a fifty dollar gold piece of the same shape and fineness as the regular U.S. double eagle. The denomination would greatly have facilitated counting operations in California since no banknotes of any denomination were in circulation there. Guthrie approved of the idea and a measure authorizing a one hundred dollar gold piece (a union) and a fifty dollar gold piece (a half union) was introduced in the Senate by California Senator William Gwin. The measure passed the Senate on June 16, 1854 but was defeated in the House, probably because such denominations were not needed in the East where paper currency was readily available.
It was a known fact that two fifty dollar gold pieces of differing designs had been struck at the U.S. Mint in 1877, but R.C. Davis, in his pattern listing of May, 1886 in The Coin Collector's Journal, stated that "of these extraordinary patterns one specimen only, of each variety was struck in gold for the cabinet of the U.S. Mint, but owing to the lack of appropriation they were rejected, and melted up by the Superintendent and Coiner." In 1909, however, they turned up in the collection of William H. Woodin who no doubt had obtained them directly from the Mint. Capt. John W. Haseltine and Stephen K. Nagy of Philadelphia sold both pieces to William Wooding of New York for a reported $10,000 each, a record price at the time.
Note: The coin referenced in the 100 Greatest US Coins book in slot #8 is the gold Half Union with only 2 in existence. Both coins are now housed in the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian Institution.
1877 $50 Half Union Gilt PCGS PR 63 (Pop 4/1)
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That is the coin that I have most wanted for many years.
This coin was hard to find! I bought it from a Heritage auctions in 2022 in a NGC PF 63+ holder and crossed it to PCGS. Unfortunately, it downgraded to PR 63 but I wanted all my coins in PCGS holders. https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/1877-50-fifty-dollar-judd-1549-gilt-pollock-1722-low-r7-pr63-ngc/a/1341-4788.s
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If you only lost the “+” crossing that coin from NGC to PCGS that’s a win!
I recall years ago reading that Abe Kosoff showed another sophisticated numismatist over a dozen mixture of lustrous Uncirc and prooflike 1796 quarters wrapped up in a folded cloth.
Back in the early 1960’s at Stack’s Milton Holmes auction, which I attended, a gem prooflike 1796 quarter sold for $3000 when the market was apprx $1500 at the time. As I recall New Yorker Bill Wild bought it, a gentle thin giant of a man who used his gem Unc half disme repeatedy as collaterol to afford such coins.Bill had impeccable numismatic taste but a very limited wallet.
This was at a time when grades were Uncirculated or Choice Uncirculated and white was in, toning was out. Many beautifully toned coins were being dipped!
Sadly, that is so true. I was afraid it would come back a 62, so I was relieved that it was still a 63.
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Prior to the Pogue sale, PCGS graded the Pogue coins and used specially designed gold foil labels. It was determined that the gold labels overpowered the silver and especially the gold coins so PCGS changed the labels to silver foil label. Here is me looking at your 1796 quarter and 1794 dollar. Just a quick story on the how the Pogue came to market. Afterwards, they were sent to CAC. The coins are still my favorites...
I don't like these gold labels. They are too shiny. Can't take good pics of them.
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Agreed, those coins are wayyyy too nice to have any attention directed away. Need reholdering.
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Here is my 1834 Classic Head Gold Half Eagle Plain 4 PCGS Proof-63 DCAM (CAC Green). This coin has a population of 1 with only 1 coin graded higher at PR 65 CAM.
This coin is #48 in my set "Elite's 100 Greatest U.S. Coins".
Jaime Hernandez:
The $5 1834 Proof Classic Head Half Eagle is exceedingly rare. Most experts agree that less than a dozen exist but most estimates are that about half a dozen are known today. No Mint records exist of these coins being struck. However, in 1834 the U.S. Mint stuck at least 2 coin sets which included the $5 1834 Proofs to present as gifts to two different world leaders. therefore, any example in any condition is very rare. These are just some extraordinary coins to say the least.
1834 $5 Plain 4 PCGS PR 63 DCAM CAC (Pop 1/1)
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Another great coin! Didn't realize how rare the Proof Classic Head half eagles were, especially with CAC approval.
Here is my 1852 Seated Liberty Silver Dollar Restrike PCGS Proof-65 (CAC Green). This coin has a population of 3 with only 1 coin graded higher at PR 65+.
This coin was ranked #82 in the first edition of the 100 Greatest US Coins book, but it is no longer included in the latest edition of the book.
Ron Guth:
The 1852 "Original" Silver Dollar Proof is a rather confusing item. Walter Breen, in the 1989 edition of his Encyclopedia of United States and Colonial Proof Coins: 1722-1989, lists three die pairs for Original 1852 Silver Dollars, all with the same obverse combined with three different reverses. His first die pair (B-1) combines what appears to be the same dies that were used on circulation strikes. If this is true, this would be a correct use of the term "Original," but it also means that all Proof 1853 Silver Dollars, whether Original or Restrike, were made from the circulation strike obverse that had been proofed In his second "Original" die pair (B-2), Breen reports the reverse die used on Proofs from 1840-1849. On his third "Original" die pair (B-3), he reports a reverse with a diagonal line slanting down (WNW through ESE on the compass) through the first five white stripes. 1852 "Restrike" Dollars combine the same obverse with an 1858-59 reverse.
In 1993, Q. David Bowers listed six different Proof reverses for 1852 Silver Dollars, comprising three Originals and three Restrikes.
1852 $1 Restrike PCGS PR 65 CAC (Pop 3/1)
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