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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:
    Salting away game 1 was pretty unexpected, if this Indiana team can pull it off I cash for a $900 win!

    I don't think the books allow this. But say ya had $100 bet on the series. It would be nice to withdraw say $50 of it along with the profits, and ride with the $50 left as a hedge of sorts.

    I'm not even sure if early cash-out on a series is available or not? I'm guessing it probably is available?

    Nope, if I want to. take a cash out right now they are offering me $65 profit on my $100 bet , it's not happening

    As it is said:"Let it ride"

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I left the game at halftime seeing my tram was down by 12. And with all the Pacers turnovers felt would be a long night Left home for 5 hours then checked the score at 3am and was really surprised. Maybe should not watch the game may have better luck.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @perkdog said:

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:
    Salting away game 1 was pretty unexpected, if this Indiana team can pull it off I cash for a $900 win!

    I don't think the books allow this. But say ya had $100 bet on the series. It would be nice to withdraw say $50 of it along with the profits, and ride with the $50 left as a hedge of sorts.

    I'm not even sure if early cash-out on a series is available or not? I'm guessing it probably is available?

    Nope, if I want to. take a cash out right now they are offering me $65 profit on my $100 bet , it's not happening

    As it is said:"Let it ride"

    Without question in the long run, that is the best play. Make the play and stick it out, win or lose. My calculations are the bookie grabs around 10% more juice for the early buy-out. You're already giving the bookie its juice on the wager, and now you're basically handing them 10% more. That's certainly not a long term recipe for success.

    I'm not saying the early buy-out can't be done in certain situations. However getting into a habit of doing it makes the bookie's job of extracting money a lot easier.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    I left the game at halftime seeing my tram was down by 12. And with all the Pacers turnovers felt would be a long night Left home for 5 hours then checked the score at 3am and was really surprised. Maybe should not watch the game may have better luck.

    I'm not sure why you're saying that, i mean sports bettors are never superstitious. 😉

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    I left the game at halftime seeing my tram was down by 12. And with all the Pacers turnovers felt would be a long night Left home for 5 hours then checked the score at 3am and was really surprised. Maybe should not watch the game may have better luck.

    I'm not sure why you're saying that, i mean sports bettors are never superstitious. 😉

    Many years ago I was at a harness horse racetrack. Horse #1 won the first 9 races.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @stevek said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    I left the game at halftime seeing my tram was down by 12. And with all the Pacers turnovers felt would be a long night Left home for 5 hours then checked the score at 3am and was really surprised. Maybe should not watch the game may have better luck.

    I'm not sure why you're saying that, i mean sports bettors are never superstitious. 😉

    Many years ago I was at a harness horse racetrack. Horse #1 won the first 9 races.

    I remember one year watching the Hambletonian which was simulcast to my local track. It hadn't yet moved to the Meadowlands, it was still being run at that Illinois track. Well it was obvious after 4 or 5 races. that for whatever reason, the rail was lightening fast, and no front runners were being caught. So when the eliminations began, it was all the top drivers in the country there for those races, and unlike the local driving idiots, these top drivers saw the condition of the track. Well the race started, and the drivers all went for the rail lead, a harness racing cavalry charge that I had never seen before, it was unbelievable.

    Well the top harness drivers turned into idiots themselves, especially the favorites vying for that rail lead, wire to wire trip. You see it coming, the idiots totally burnt out their favorites and it set up for a couple huge longshots to run 1-2 for a really fat exacta - of which i had none of it.

    After that race, the top drivers learned from their mistake, and the following races weren't like a cavalry charge. That one race golden opportunity for a great score was missed. 🙁

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At a Sire Stakes race I bet the great Stanley Dancer. At the half he kicked the horse in the butt to get him motivated. No fine. But today you get fined.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    At a Sire Stakes race I bet the great Stanley Dancer. At the half he kicked the horse in the butt to get him motivated. No fine. But today you get fined.

    Stanley was a heckuva driver and always clean. Can't say that about too many other harness drivers.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    At a Sire Stakes race I bet the great Stanley Dancer. At the half he kicked the horse in the butt to get him motivated. No fine. But today you get fined.

    Stanley was a heckuva driver and always clean. Can't say that about too many other harness drivers.

    Walter Case fell from grace. In fact many times

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will take the Pacers+points today.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @stevek said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    At a Sire Stakes race I bet the great Stanley Dancer. At the half he kicked the horse in the butt to get him motivated. No fine. But today you get fined.

    Stanley was a heckuva driver and always clean. Can't say that about too many other harness drivers.

    Walter Case fell from grace. In fact many times

    I could tell ya stories told to me by a hall of fame driver about the subject you implied, that would blow your mind. A number of times I visited his racing stable located at his home. Probably around twenty or thirty top, well bred harness horses. I was just an extended family friend of his, but he knew I liked horse racing as a bettor. For some reason he enjoyed telling me these "stories", frankly many were stories he probably shouldn't have been telling me about that subject.

    This may sound funny, but he was an older gentleman when I first knew him, and I of course never asked him about this subject. But he kept bringing it up with the various stories and such. It's almost like I was a preacher and he was confessing the sins of the industry to me. I guess he sized me up quickly, and knew I wouldn't tell a soul about the details of our conversations. And he was right, I never have and never will. At least in the Philly area, the worst thing in life you can be to family or friends is a rat, and I have never done that.

    All that being said, suffice to say, use your imagination, and that may still not be good enough as to what was going on in the harness industry. I recall one driver who was infamous for doing that, and everybody knew it. When handicapping a race where he was a driver, you actually needed to try to handicap whether he would be cheating or not. LOL

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    I will take the Pacers+points today.

    Everyone thinks OKC is going to demolish Indiana to. make up. for that crushing loss the other night

    My position is they would have demolished them the other night if they could have, Indiana is a tough team

    In other words I. like the points as well

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    I will take the Pacers+points today.

    Everyone thinks OKC is going to demolish Indiana to. make up. for that crushing loss the other night

    My position is they would have demolished them the other night if they could have, Indiana is a tough team

    In other words I. like the points as well

    "Everyone thinks OKC is going to demolish Indiana to. make up. for that crushing loss the other night"

    That's the main reason, as I stated earlier about the line, that I thought the line would be at least -15, possibly more.

    Only a question of which OKC team shows up tonight?

    Frankly, I'm of course rooting for Perkdog in the series, but I'd be very surprised if OKC loses this game 2. However the spread is another matter.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice win for Sovereignty in the Belmont Stakes Saturday. Journalism does not look like he likes the mile and a quarter distance. I came up second in my play. The Travers may be the next spot for Sovereignty at 1 1/4 mile. Journalism may not like the distance again. Be interesting to see if he tries again at that distance.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    Nice win for Sovereignty in the Belmont Stakes Saturday. Journalism does not look like he likes the mile and a quarter distance. I came up second in my play. The Travers may be the next spot for Sovereignty at 1 1/4 mile. Journalism may not like the distance again. Be interesting to see if he tries again at that distance.

    Sovereignty looked like he could run another 10 furlongs with no problem. While Journalism was shortening stride, gasping for air.

    Travers, that horse may go off 1-5 in a short field.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2025 12:16PM


    Profit is profit

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    Profit is profit

    Dam, you're hitting those "oddball" bets like they're going out of style. 👍

    I've been thinking in this new modern era, with the computer offering practically endless combinations of bets available. That a sharp player may be able to find actual value there, and if disciplined enough, make money in the long run.

    I've read some posts on various sports websites about some players being banned from some sports betting venues for consistently making money. The posts in my view seemed legit.

    Frankly, it does make sense. I mean all these perhaps millions of computer calculations each day, in my opinion all of those calculations can't possibly be accurate. Almost impossible not to be some flaws in which a player might have an edge. But of course a lot easier said than done. The discipline involved may be similar to a monk at a monastery.

    If it's constant action a player craves, that's fine, but sorry to say he's got no chance of making money in the long run - zero. But in this new era, perhaps money could be made in the long run - maybe?

    i know Galaxy may not want to hear this compliment. But that recent large ML bet he made on the Thunder series, was one of the best bet values I've ever seen. I realize it was the NBA, but that bet was about as mortal lock as possible for a multitude of reasons. I have no doubt the odds were in his favor on that bet, even with the low percentage payout. In my opinion the computer should have had that payout much lower.

    The key is does any bettor on the planet have the discipline skills needed, to strike only on situations such as that series bet which don't come up too often when the odds favor the player. Well according to the posts mentioned, I guess some out there do?

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2025 3:18AM


    You can take $25 off that $180 win since it was a "Free Bet" that I earned by losing a $25 bet lol

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting - you took the first listed bet when OKC was at -10.5 and grabbed 9-1 odds for a WM number a little bit higher. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

    The second one I can't fully comment on as to my opinion on value, because it was live and don't know what the score was when you made that bet. But 13-1 odds with the profit boost doesn't sound bad. Not that you wanted my lame arze opinion anyway. LOL

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My Canadian Open plays. One score, 2 bogeys Small profit. Onto the next Major.

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  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek here are some Scottie lines

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    @stevek here are some Scottie lines

    Me likes my boy Scottie, Top 20 Finish.

    If he doesn't do it, I will send him a nasty email about himself, his heritage, and his entire family including his pets.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭


  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2025 5:16AM




    The Cincy/Cleveland game I won $16 on my bet so I took the whole $86 and sprinkled it on various bets between the Dodgers and Padres and rang it up for a nice $920 Profit

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Heckuva nice score!

    You may have found a license to print money.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    Heckuva nice score!

    You may have found a license to print money.

    We all know how that theory plays out lol

    Got lucky but I'll take it

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog

    if i could give 10 likes i would

    awesome work bro!!!

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    @perkdog

    if i could give 10 likes i would

    awesome work bro!!!

    I'd give perkdog 3.14π x 144√ likes...👍👍👍

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    @perkdog

    if i could give 10 likes i would

    awesome work bro!!!

    @GroceryRackPack said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    @perkdog

    if i could give 10 likes i would

    awesome work bro!!!

    I'd give perkdog 3.14π x 144√ likes...👍👍👍

    Thanks fellas 🍻

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good show.

    If you hadn't placed the $10 bet tip for the butcher, he would have drawn a 7. 😉

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice write up. @galaxy27

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  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    hey ya perkdog...

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    Dam Dodgers really mucked it up for ya. 👎

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    here are my (and stevek's) US Open bets

    naturally i'd like to win mine, but i really want to make a 120$ donation to the March of Dimes

    -3917.75

    stevek's:

    my 3 T20 plays:

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some nice scores posted. Well done lads. That's how we like it around here.
    Now on to the US Open plays. Scottie for top 5,Top 20 for Bhatia, Pendrift, Bezuidehout and for the win, hopefully ,at 22-1 Aberg. Good luck to all and may the aces,eagles, birdies be with us.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well you're back in the driver's seat. Not a bad place to be at 9-1.

    Interesting the books had that third game as OKC -4.5. Now this fourth game off their loss it's OKC -6. Of course the "bounce back" thing discussed earlier in the thread.

    Frankly, i had no clue about the third game, and neither with this upcoming game. That being said, when you're in at 9-1 in the series on a long shot dog, it's always good to have an inconsistent favorite. Win or lose the series, you've got a shot.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The U.S.Open. What a train wreck. Only 10 players under par.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of course I'm not giving up on Scottie after one round.

    But that wasn't exactly a good start. 😐

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's see some High🌌Steak🥩 Payouts 💵

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  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    sticking a hoops bet in amid the carnage taking place at Oakmont

    -3917.75

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    sticking a hoops bet in amid the carnage taking place at Oakmont

    -3917.75

    Solid bet on a better team off the loss.

    Books had it almost right on the nose at OKC -6.5

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Game 5 opened up OKC -9.5

    Obviously this is a must win game for the Pacers. They could lose this game, and then conceivably back at home steal game 6. However if the series goes to game 7, it's hopeless for the Pacers. OKC may win that game 7 by over 20 points.

    So in reality, the Pacers need to win Monday's game 5, and also win game 6 at home, to clinch the series.

    That's my 2 cents opinion, and at 2 cents, it's way overpriced. LOL

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    Of course I'm not giving up on Scottie after one round.

    But that wasn't exactly a good start. 😐

    Scottie came thru for the kids. 😊

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    Scottie came thru for the kids. 😊

    indeed!

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wanted to match Galaxy's donation.

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    Donation amount $128.00 USD
    Donation date Jun 16, 2025, 2:54 AM EDT
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    Arlington, VA 22202
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