Show dealer arrested

logger7 · May 24, 2025 11:04AM

Mr. Simon ran the Westchester coin show for years and has been a regular in the coin show circuit: https://nypost.com/2025/03/15/us-news/columbian-migrant-theft-gang-stole-millions-from-americans-during-cross-country-heist-spree-feds/

johnny9434 · May 24, 2025 12:50PM

It's always something 👎

Goldbully · May 24, 2025 5:55PM

Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

winesteven · May 24, 2025 7:31PM

I see he pleaded “Not Guilty”. He must have been surprised when the police didn’t believe him. After all, he’s gone through life with everyone doing as he asks. You know, “Simon says…” 🤣.

Steve

MrEureka · May 24, 2025 8:24PM

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

pcgsregistrycollector · May 24, 2025 9:17PM

Thats not good.

renomedphys · May 24, 2025 9:43PM

Mark Simon, huh?

MsMorrisine · May 24, 2025 10:00PM

there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why nt send it to a refiner?

jmlanzaf · May 25, 2025 3:27AM

@MsMorrisine said:
there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why nt send it to a refiner?

How do we know they didn't?

jmlanzaf · May 25, 2025 3:32AM

@MrEureka said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

MFeld · May 25, 2025 5:23AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@MrEureka said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?

jmlanzaf · May 25, 2025 7:12AM

@MFeld said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MrEureka said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?

Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

ARCO · May 25, 2025 7:30AM

@MrEureka said:
All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

Yep, probably just a mix-up, a lot of misunderstanding. Police investigations lasting months to collect evidence probably skimmed over important pieces and lacked much effort.

When you buy valuables that have a market values multiples more than you are paying and the sellers are immigrants (or anybody) and you meet in a hotel room, you know the goods you are buying are stolen.

I don't judge, but then I do. I hate thieving dirtbags.

ARCO · May 25, 2025 7:34AM

@jmlanzaf said:

Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

Did you do repeat business buying merchandise that the seller was willing to selll for 20-30% of market value? If I was wearing a hoodie and gave you an 1893-S Morgan Dollar in PCGS XF45 and said I would take $500 for it...legit, you think?

jmlanzaf · May 25, 2025 7:37AM

@ARCO said:

@jmlanzaf said:

Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

Did you do repeat business buying merchandise that the seller was willing to selll for 20-30% of market value? If I was wearing a hoodie and gave you an 1893-S Morgan Dollar in PCGS XF45 and said I would take $500 for it...legit, you think?

Where did that 20 to 30% of market value come from? The article only says that he paid $16,000 for SOME of the loot. It never says how much he bought. If the dealer paid fair market value, does that change your opinion?

I'm not saying that Mr. Simon is definitely innocent. But I also don't objective him to be guilty.

MFeld · May 25, 2025 7:38AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MrEureka said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?

Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

@MFeld said:

» show previous quotes
The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?
Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

<<

Just because you don’t do business with dead coin dealers doesn’t mean they should be excluded from the pool of those who might never have unknowingly bought stolen coins.

I think a lot of dealers have probably never unknowingly bought stolen coins simply because there are way more than merely “a lot” of dealers. If there’s only one such dealer, your original comment was incorrect. And even if only a very small percentage of dealers haven’t unknowingly bought stolen coins, that would qualify as “a lot” of dealers.

jmlanzaf · May 25, 2025 7:44AM

@ARCO said:

@jmlanzaf said:

Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

Did you do repeat business buying merchandise that the seller was willing to selll for 20-30% of market value? If I was wearing a hoodie and gave you an 1893-S Morgan Dollar in PCGS XF45 and said I would take $500 for it...legit, you think?

By the way, scrap value of jewelry is quite typically 10 to 20% of retail...

jmlanzaf · May 25, 2025 7:46AM

@MFeld said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MrEureka said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?

Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

@MFeld said:

» show previous quotes
The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?
Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

<<

Just because you don’t do business with dead coin dealers doesn’t mean they should be excluded from the pool of those who might never have unknowingly bought stolen coins.

I think a lot of dealers have probably never unknowingly bought stolen coins simply because there are way more than merely “a lot” of dealers. If there’s only one such dealer, your original comment was incorrect. And even if only a very small percentage of dealers haven’t unknowingly bought stolen coins, that would qualify as “a lot” of dealers.

I'm sticking with "I don't think there's a coin dealer alive..." 😉

Most stolen coins and most stolen jewelry get sold to dealers... usually unknowingly. The odds are in my favor.

davewesen · May 25, 2025 8:06AM

I wonder what percentage of items on facebook (META?) marketplace are stolen?

How can you guarantee when buying something it is not stolen?

winesteven · May 25, 2025 8:12AM

I think we're missing the point, and the article apparently did not answer the following:

Roughly what percentage of normal wholesale pricing did Simon pay (and the crooks accepted)? Even if a wholesale purchase price of jewelry is a low amount compared to retail pricing, did Simon pay a LOT less than normal wholesale pricing? If so, he has no sympathy from me. If he did this more than once from these crooks, then he has even less sympathy from me.

Steve

fathom · May 25, 2025 8:38AM

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars. Oh.....just looking for a good deal and a decent margin....right.

MrEureka · May 25, 2025 9:03AM

@fathom said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

That’s not what the article says.

PeakRarities · May 25, 2025 9:06AM

No reasonable doubt to spare here, it sounds like he paid pennies on the dollar for quite the haul, all robberies in my back yard. Probably garish Boca-wealth type pieces that are custom made and distinguishable. To hell with 'em all.

https://westfaironline.com/courts/putnam-jeweler-linked-to-florida-jewelry-heists/

https://jewelerssecurity.org/three-suspects-arrested-for-robberies-targeting-traveling-jewelry-salespeople/

"Jeweler Mark Simon was arrested at his Putnam Valley home on March 12 and accused of fencing more than $1 million in stolen jewelry for a South Florida gang.

Simon paid an estimated $135,000 to $175,000 for the stolen jewelry, according to an indictment issued on Feb. 25 by a Miami federal grand jury. The gang also stole an additional $3.6 million in cash and jewelry in two thefts, but the indictment does not allege how much Simon offered to pay for those goods.

The gang targeted jewelry stores and traveling salespeople in Florida, Georgia and California. To convert the hot goods to cash, the gang needed a fence: someone who would buy stolen goods at below-market values.

Mark Simon, according to the indictment, was the fence.

He allegedly traveled to Florida several times to buy stolen jewelry, returned to New York with the goods, then shipped packages of currency to the gang. The packages were addressed to fake business names, according to the indictment, to conceal the names of his co-conspirators and the nature of the transactions.

Sometimes, the indictment states, Simon concealed his activities by melting gold jewelry and selling it to a refiner.

The indictment describes five jewelry heists from 2019 to 2021.

In September 2019, for example, the gang stole jewelry worth $732,000 from a vehicle in Boca Raton, Florida. Simon traveled to Miami and allegedly picked up the jewelry, returned home to New York, and mailed from $80,000 to $100,000 to members of the gang.

In February 2020 in Boynton Beach, Florida, the gang stole about $2.6 million in jewelry from a traveling salesman. Gang members made multiple calls to Simon, the indictment states, and two weeks after the robbery Simon flew to Fort Lauderdale, rented a hotel room in Miami Lakes, met with members of the gang, agreed to buy a portion of the stolen jewelry, and later mailed money to the gang. The indictment does not say how much he allegedly paid.

In March 2020, the gang burgled a Dalton, Georgia jewelry store and took about $1 million in jewelry. Before and after the burglary, Simon and a member of the gang exchanged phone calls, according to the indictment. Simon flew to Georgia, but this time the gang decided not to sell stolen jewelry to him.

If convicted of money laundering, the charging papers state, Simon could be imprisoned for as many as 20 years and fined up to $250,000."

logger7 · May 25, 2025 9:55AM

There is a reason these indictments are titled the "U.S. vs" the culprit; because they are deliberately acting against the country's interest as the FBI and other law enforcement documented: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69731423/united-states-v-simon/

I'd just question how many years the deliberate purchase of stolen material had gone on as their records usually only go back as far as the investigation.

fathom · May 25, 2025 11:46AM

@MrEureka said:

@fathom said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

That’s not what the article says.

That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

JBK · May 25, 2025 11:53AM

@fathom said:

@MrEureka said:

@fathom said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

That’s not what the article says.

That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

I suspect that his deal is that you had previously said;

buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars

but the article said:

paid just $16,000 for some of the $1 million in baubles...

Buying millions for thousands is not the same as paying thousands for some of the one million.

In the end these semantica might not matter much, but that's the way I understood his point.

jmlanzaf · May 25, 2025 12:27PM

@fathom said:

@MrEureka said:

@fathom said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

That’s not what the article says.

That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

@fathom said:

@MrEureka said:

@fathom said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

That’s not what the article says.

That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

The article Dan posted tells a different story. But the one posted here does not indicate how much jewelry he bought for $16,000.

Old_Collector · May 25, 2025 1:20PM

I wonder what he reported in taxable income, he may end up in Al Capone's old cell at Alcatraz.

fathom · May 25, 2025 2:17PM

@JBK said:

@fathom said:

@MrEureka said:

@fathom said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

That’s not what the article says.

That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

I suspect that his deal is that you had previously said;

buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars

but the article said:

paid just $16,000 for some of the $1 million in baubles...

Buying millions for thousands is not the same as paying thousands for some of the one million.

In the end these semantica might not matter much, but that's the way I understood his point.

Millions in merch was stolen so he could have had access to the other merch as well as GA but we are all speculating on the facts.

The optics are bad.

JBK · May 25, 2025 2:35PM

@fathom said:

@JBK said:

@fathom said:

@MrEureka said:

@fathom said:

@Goldbully said:
Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

“If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂

'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

That’s not what the article says.

That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

I suspect that his deal is that you had previously said;

buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars

but the article said:

paid just $16,000 for some of the $1 million in baubles...

Buying millions for thousands is not the same as paying thousands for some of the one million.

In the end these semantica might not matter much, but that's the way I understood his point.

Millions in merch was stolen so he could have had access to the other merch as well as GA but we are all speculating on the facts.

The optics are bad.

That's for sure. And he picked the wrong optics to get involved with since that theft ring was already making national headlines.

Goldbully · May 25, 2025 3:09PM

Not looking too good for the dirtbag, Mark Simon......

Continues in below link..........................

Case 7:25-mj-00839-UA

sanddollar · May 25, 2025 3:13PM

"Judge not, lest ye be judged"
-The Golden Rule

PerryHall · May 25, 2025 3:14PM

Can someone post a mug shot?

lermish · May 25, 2025 3:16PM

@PerryHall said:
Can someone post a mug shot?

sanddollar · May 25, 2025 3:18PM

@PerryHall said:
Can someone post a mug shot?

Here's a mugshot, per your request:

PerryHall · May 25, 2025 3:23PM

@OnBendedKnee I was looking for a mug shot of the subject coin dealer rather than your selfie.

sanddollar · May 25, 2025 3:25PM

Cranium_Basher73 · May 25, 2025 3:31PM

Looks like a inbred John Cena

MsMorrisine · May 25, 2025 4:26PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@MsMorrisine said:
there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why nt send it to a refiner?

How do we know they didn't?

how do we know it's really him and not an unknown twin brother using a stolen identity?

Goldbully · May 25, 2025 4:46PM

@MsMorrisine said:

how do we know it's really him and not an unknown twin brother using a stolen identity?

An identity affidavit is a legal document used to confirm a person's identity, often when there's a discrepancy between the name on an official document and the name a person uses, or when their identity needs to be verified for a transaction or legal process. It's essentially a sworn statement, often notarized, declaring that the person is who they say they are

winesteven · May 25, 2025 4:58PM

.

jmlanzaf · May 25, 2025 5:31PM

@lermish said:

@PerryHall said:
Can someone post a mug shot?

MsMorrisine · May 25, 2025 5:35PM

how do we know the clerks didn't make a mistake?

Coinscratch · May 25, 2025 5:44PM

Well now, there is a new sheriff in town.

MsMorrisine · May 25, 2025 7:12PM

there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why not send it to a refiner?

PeakRarities · May 25, 2025 7:20PM

@MsMorrisine said:
there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why not send it to a refiner?

…..because… it was stolen. You think refiners keep no records of what’s melted?

MsMorrisine · May 25, 2025 7:29PM

i do not think they keep detailed records of what they take in.

additionally, outside of jewellery formed into "LeBron" it seems it could be piecemealed into multiple refinery submissions without drawing suspicions. on the otherhand a hand pour stands out.

Jetstream · May 25, 2025 8:31PM

Same Mark Simon who runs the Westchester County Coin Show?

PeakRarities · May 25, 2025 8:45PM

@Jetstream said:
Same Mark Simon who runs the Westchester County Coin Show?

Yup.

pcgsregistrycollector · May 25, 2025 10:15PM

@OnBendedKnee said:

@PerryHall said:
Can someone post a mug shot?

Here's a mugshot, per your request:

He duddent look very happy

jmlanzaf · May 26, 2025 5:08AM

@MsMorrisine said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MsMorrisine said:
there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why nt send it to a refiner?

How do we know they didn't?

how do we know it's really him and not an unknown twin brother using a stolen identity?

Huh. It's > @PeakRarities said:

@MsMorrisine said:
there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why not send it to a refiner?

…..because… it was stolen. You think refiners keep no records of what’s melted?

I know what you are saying but i know dealers who scrap millions in jewelry per year. If you crack the stones out and break a few chains, it would be very hard to identify it as the stolen jewelry unless it was a very unique design.

Show dealer arrested

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