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Mr. Simon ran the Westchester coin show for years and has been a regular in the coin show circuit: https://nypost.com/2025/03/15/us-news/columbian-migrant-theft-gang-stole-millions-from-americans-during-cross-country-heist-spree-feds/

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's always something 👎

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,932 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2025 9:17PM

    Thats not good.

    God comes first in everything I do. I’m dedicated to serving Him with my whole life. Coin collecting is just a hobby—but even in that, I seek to honor Him. ✝️

  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 26, 2025 1:35PM

    Mark Simon, huh?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why nt send it to a refiner?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why nt send it to a refiner?

    How do we know they didn't?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

    Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

    There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

    Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

    There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

    The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 7:14AM

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

    Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

    There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

    The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?

    Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

    I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

    For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

    Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

    I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 7:31AM

    @MrEureka said:
    All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

    Yep, probably just a mix-up, a lot of misunderstanding. Police investigations lasting months to collect evidence probably skimmed over important pieces and lacked much effort.

    When you buy valuables that have a market values multiples more than you are paying and the sellers are immigrants (or anybody) and you meet in a hotel room, you know the goods you are buying are stolen.

    I don't judge, but then I do. I hate thieving dirtbags.

  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

    There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

    Did you do repeat business buying merchandise that the seller was willing to selll for 20-30% of market value? If I was wearing a hoodie and gave you an 1893-S Morgan Dollar in PCGS XF45 and said I would take $500 for it...legit, you think?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 7:41AM

    @ARCO said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

    There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

    Did you do repeat business buying merchandise that the seller was willing to selll for 20-30% of market value? If I was wearing a hoodie and gave you an 1893-S Morgan Dollar in PCGS XF45 and said I would take $500 for it...legit, you think?

    Where did that 20 to 30% of market value come from? The article only says that he paid $16,000 for SOME of the loot. It never says how much he bought. If the dealer paid fair market value, does that change your opinion?

    I'm not saying that Mr. Simon is definitely innocent. But I also don't objective him to be guilty.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 7:39AM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

    Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

    There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

    The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?

    Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

    I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

    For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

    Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

    I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

    @MFeld said:

    » show previous quotes
    The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?
    Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

    I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

    For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

    Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

    I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

    <<

    Just because you don’t do business with dead coin dealers doesn’t mean they should be excluded from the pool of those who might never have unknowingly bought stolen coins.

    I think a lot of dealers have probably never unknowingly bought stolen coins simply because there are way more than merely “a lot” of dealers. If there’s only one such dealer, your original comment was incorrect. And even if only a very small percentage of dealers haven’t unknowingly bought stolen coins, that would qualify as “a lot” of dealers.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ARCO said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

    There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

    Did you do repeat business buying merchandise that the seller was willing to selll for 20-30% of market value? If I was wearing a hoodie and gave you an 1893-S Morgan Dollar in PCGS XF45 and said I would take $500 for it...legit, you think?

    By the way, scrap value of jewelry is quite typically 10 to 20% of retail...

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    All I know from that article is that the prosecutor thinks he spent 16k on some stolen goods of some unknown value. In a Florida hotel room, which may or may not have been at a time when he was there on other business. And we don’t know if he knew the goods were stolen. So I think it’s premature to assume his guilt.

    Totally agree. I don't think there's a coin dealer alive who hasn't unknowingly bought stolen goods. It happened to me at least once that I was later made aware of when the police identified the thief and the stolen goods. [Partially returned to the owner. ]

    There was also another time that we were very suspicious of the seller, but the police did not identify the coins as stolen. And I'm sure there are other cases that I never knew anything.

    The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?

    Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

    I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

    For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

    Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

    I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

    @MFeld said:

    » show previous quotes
    The odds are that there are many living coin dealers who have never unknowingly bought stolen goods. But why did you only refer to coin dealers who are alive?
    Because I don't do a lot of business with dead coin dealers... 😉

    I'd like to see the math on your "odds". If a dealer buys only slabs, that improves their odds, but even then it doesn't guarantee they don't buy stolen goods. I bought a bunch of stolen slabbed Franklin's that the police allowed me to keep because the victim could not prove he owned those slabs. This was even though he had receipts for some of the other slabbed Franklins from the same thief who had been charged.

    For raw coins, even if you don't buy them directly from the thief, once they are back in the market, they circulate unknowingly despite all being stolen goods.

    Why do you think there are a lot of living dealers who never bought a stolen coin but want me to also include dead dealers? 😉

    I bet even Heritage has unknowingly auctioned stolen goods. It's really hard to avoid. I don't usually directly buy from the public and I've still ended up with stolen goods.

    <<

    Just because you don’t do business with dead coin dealers doesn’t mean they should be excluded from the pool of those who might never have unknowingly bought stolen coins.

    I think a lot of dealers have probably never unknowingly bought stolen coins simply because there are way more than merely “a lot” of dealers. If there’s only one such dealer, your original comment was incorrect. And even if only a very small percentage of dealers haven’t unknowingly bought stolen coins, that would qualify as “a lot” of dealers.

    I'm sticking with "I don't think there's a coin dealer alive..." 😉

    Most stolen coins and most stolen jewelry get sold to dealers... usually unknowingly. The odds are in my favor.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder what percentage of items on facebook (META?) marketplace are stolen?

    How can you guarantee when buying something it is not stolen?

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 8:53AM

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars. Oh.....just looking for a good deal and a decent margin....right.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fathom said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

    That’s not what the article says.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a reason these indictments are titled the "U.S. vs" the culprit; because they are deliberately acting against the country's interest as the FBI and other law enforcement documented: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69731423/united-states-v-simon/

    I'd just question how many years the deliberate purchase of stolen material had gone on as their records usually only go back as far as the investigation.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @fathom said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

    That’s not what the article says.

    That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 12:08PM

    @fathom said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @fathom said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

    That’s not what the article says.

    That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

    I suspect that his deal is that you had previously said;

    buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars

    but the article said:

    paid just $16,000 for some of the $1 million in baubles...

    Buying millions for thousands is not the same as paying thousands for some of the one million.

    In the end these semantica might not matter much, but that's the way I understood his point.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fathom said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @fathom said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

    That’s not what the article says.

    That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

    @fathom said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @fathom said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

    That’s not what the article says.

    That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

    The article Dan posted tells a different story. But the one posted here does not indicate how much jewelry he bought for $16,000.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @fathom said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @fathom said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

    That’s not what the article says.

    That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

    I suspect that his deal is that you had previously said;

    buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars

    but the article said:

    paid just $16,000 for some of the $1 million in baubles...

    Buying millions for thousands is not the same as paying thousands for some of the one million.

    In the end these semantica might not matter much, but that's the way I understood his point.

    Millions in merch was stolen so he could have had access to the other merch as well as GA but we are all speculating on the facts.

    The optics are bad.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fathom said:

    @JBK said:

    @fathom said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @fathom said:

    @Goldbully said:
    Simon is involved in both retail and wholesale jewelry sales, said his lawyer, Jeffrey Chartier.

    “If you’re in the wholesale business, you search out the best prices for products,” Chartier said while maintaining his client’s innocence. 😂


    'Mr. Simon' is a dirtbag.

    Meets in hotel rooms on a continual basis to buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars.

    That’s not what the article says.

    That's exactly what the article says. What's your deal?

    I suspect that his deal is that you had previously said;

    buy millions in merch for thousands of dollars

    but the article said:

    paid just $16,000 for some of the $1 million in baubles...

    Buying millions for thousands is not the same as paying thousands for some of the one million.

    In the end these semantica might not matter much, but that's the way I understood his point.

    Millions in merch was stolen so he could have had access to the other merch as well as GA but we are all speculating on the facts.

    The optics are bad.

    That's for sure. And he picked the wrong optics to get involved with since that theft ring was already making national headlines.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 3:14PM

    Not looking too good for the dirtbag, Mark Simon......







    Continues in below link..........................

    Case 7:25-mj-00839-UA

  • OnBendedKneeOnBendedKnee Posts: 332 ✭✭✭

    "Judge not, lest ye be judged"
    -The Golden Rule

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can someone post a mug shot?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • OnBendedKneeOnBendedKnee Posts: 332 ✭✭✭

    :o

  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a inbred John Cena

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why nt send it to a refiner?

    How do we know they didn't?

    how do we know it's really him and not an unknown twin brother using a stolen identity?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,932 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    how do we know it's really him and not an unknown twin brother using a stolen identity?



    An identity affidavit is a legal document used to confirm a person's identity, often when there's a discrepancy between the name on an official document and the name a person uses, or when their identity needs to be verified for a transaction or legal process. It's essentially a sworn statement, often notarized, declaring that the person is who they say they are

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 4:58PM

    .

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @PerryHall said:
    Can someone post a mug shot?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    how do we know the clerks didn't make a mistake?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well now, there is a new sheriff in town.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why not send it to a refiner?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why not send it to a refiner?

    …..because… it was stolen. You think refiners keep no records of what’s melted?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 25, 2025 7:30PM

    i do not think they keep detailed records of what they take in.

    additionally, outside of jewellery formed into "LeBron" it seems it could be piecemealed into multiple refinery submissions without drawing suspicions. on the otherhand a hand pour stands out.

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  • JetstreamJetstream Posts: 38 ✭✭✭

    Same Mark Simon who runs the Westchester County Coin Show?

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jetstream said:
    Same Mark Simon who runs the Westchester County Coin Show?

    Yup.

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    @OnBendedKnee said:

    @PerryHall said:
    Can someone post a mug shot?

    Here's a mugshot, per your request:

    He duddent look very happy

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    @MsMorrisine said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why nt send it to a refiner?

    How do we know they didn't?

    how do we know it's really him and not an unknown twin brother using a stolen identity?

    Huh. It's > @PeakRarities said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    there is also from the story: gold was melted and 16000 worth of gold is not a lot to pay 5% back on so why melt that little? why not send it to a refiner?

    …..because… it was stolen. You think refiners keep no records of what’s melted?

    I know what you are saying but i know dealers who scrap millions in jewelry per year. If you crack the stones out and break a few chains, it would be very hard to identify it as the stolen jewelry unless it was a very unique design.

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