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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64BR.

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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50 BR

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    EF40

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53 BN

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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58BN

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    CoinbertCoinbert Posts: 730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are color designations used on circulated copper?

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    35

    ...and a winner!

    I'd have accepted EAC30 too... ;)

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good morning people :)

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63FB

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    CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinbert: that’s a good question! I mainly collect FE’s & IHC’s. There are no color designations at all for FE’s nor CN IHC’s (1859-1864). That includes UNC.
    Assumption is circulated IHC’s are BN, but there are exceptions for occasional RB’s. They’re usually found in AU58, but I’ve seen them as “low” as VF20! No RD’s to my knowledge.
    I believe the Lincolns also designate circulated RB’s if appropriate.
    I don’t know about the half cents & LC’s, though. Maybe someone can weigh in about those.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Copperindian said:
    @Coinbert: that’s a good question! I mainly collect FE’s & IHC’s. There are no color designations at all for FE’s nor CN IHC’s (1859-1864). That includes UNC.
    Assumption is circulated IHC’s are BN, but there are exceptions for occasional RB’s. They’re usually found in AU58, but I’ve seen them as “low” as VF20! No RD’s to my knowledge.
    I believe the Lincolns also designate circulated RB’s if appropriate.
    I don’t know about the half cents & LC’s, though. Maybe someone can weigh in about those.

    My experience with LC's is that PCGS, NGC, and ANACS give BN; RB; and RD designations for MS coins, but only NGC gives BN designations for AU coins and below... I've seen a couple of NGC graded LC's at XF45BN... I'm not sure how low they go with that particular designation for color...

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64FB

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS64+FB

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rough crowd :D

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66fB

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    Rough crowd :D

    I imagine its way better lol, my guess was for obverse that seems to be well chattered, reverse seem 67, these are always wild, last one or prior one went for VF grades thru MS64 grades so just have fun, and don't take it personal :#

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Rough crowd :D

    I imagine its way better lol, my guess was for obverse that seems to be well chattered, reverse seem 67, these are always wild, last one or prior one went for VF grades thru MS64 grades so just have fun, and don't take it personal :#

    Seriously... the 1855 LC above was an ebay purchase. Few bidders... maybe because of the old ANACS slab... but I got her for around VF money and I'm seeing a strong XF, possibly AU.

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Rough crowd :D

    I imagine its way better lol, my guess was for obverse that seems to be well chattered, reverse seem 67, these are always wild, last one or prior one went for VF grades thru MS64 grades so just have fun, and don't take it personal :#

    No worries I never do :)

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep digging.

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    Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2025 11:11AM

    66FB. That is a tough date. All those early 80's Roosies are tough to get FB.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66FB

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Clackamas1 said:
    66FB. That is a tough date. All those early 80's Roosies are tough to get FB.

    Yes it is, and 67FB is correct (although when I hit the quote tab it automatically changes to 66 maybe AI at work here) I happily sold it to an astute forum member for half of PG. Pop 4/0 2,200.00

    There were some disagreements about the grade and I should consider it a gift :)
    My thought was the depth of strike overruled the minor hits. Either way she gone now!

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Clackamas1 said:
    66FB. That is a tough date. All those early 80's Roosies are tough to get FB.

    You changed your answer that's why it coming up 66 when I hit the "quote button".

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2025 12:29PM

    Go ahead @Clackamas as I was responding to your initial 67FB :)

    I have 12 more dimes in process ranging from 81 to 97 hoping for more gifts. :)

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    Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry, I changed my grade. Technically I did not guess since I changed it.

    BTW - I tried for years on those 80's FB dimes. I made a few, mostly from mint sets.

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    Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2025 1:02PM

    My favorite series and one of my favorite coins in my collection. I found this is an OBW roll from Ebay.

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    Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS67+ FS

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS67

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS66

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS68FS

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65+

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    Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2025 1:35PM

    @lkenefic said:
    MS66

    You got it but missed the variety. DDO the Double Eye.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Clackamas1 said:

    @lkenefic said:
    MS66

    You got it but missed the variety. DDO the Double Eye.

    Yup... missed the variety. I was more hung up on "FS" or no "FS"...


    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Clackamas1 said:
    My favorite series and one of my favorite coins in my collection. I found this is an OBW roll from Ebay.

    65+ fs

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the last one was 35 this one has to be 45.

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jfriedm56 said:

    @PeakRarities said:

    @jfriedm56 said:

    @Torey said:
    Man, I love that one @jfriedm56 !

    Thanks. In hand, the luster and toning really make it pop. And it’s in an old fatty.

    Does the carpet match the drapes? 😅

    Idk the reverse looks anything like that, it's a full gem to me.

    Thanks and yes the luster and toning are consistent on both sides. The obvious dings on the reverse, IMO, keeps this from gem status. But what also drew me to this coin was the Snow-16 variety, which has an extremely strong internal cud or die break in the eagle’s wing. Zack.

    Ahh I see, I wasn't active in this thread and didn't scroll up when I saw the second pic. Regardless, what a stunner.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    EF40

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess I have to go AU50 then, Im not sure how they treat the glossy surfaces but I would have been in the 40ish range if not taken already.

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    Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53BN

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    CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45 Small Date

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

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    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

    Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am in with EF45, nice example, but its taken , so AU50.

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    CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:
    I am in with EF45, nice example, but its taken , so AU50.

    So is the AU50. I’m thinking, though, he’s looking for either “small date” or “large date” to be included with the grade #. I’m thinking the grade # has been guessed already, but he won’t consider it correct without the type - they are placed beneath the grade on the label. Just a thought….

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian
    Copperindian II
    Indy Eagles
    Gold Rush

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian
    Nickelodeon
    Early Walkers

    Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Copperindian said:

    @marcmoish said:
    I am in with EF45, nice example, but its taken , so AU50.

    So is the AU50. I’m thinking, though, he’s looking for either “small date” or “large date” to be included with the grade #. I’m thinking the grade # has been guessed already, but he won’t consider it correct without the type - they are placed beneath the grade on the label. Just a thought….

    Sorry, I see that, lets try 50BN LD

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Copperindian said:

    @marcmoish said:
    I am in with EF45, nice example, but its taken , so AU50.

    So is the AU50. I’m thinking, though, he’s looking for either “small date” or “large date” to be included with the grade #. I’m thinking the grade # has been guessed already, but he won’t consider it correct without the type - they are placed beneath the grade on the label. Just a thought….

    No one has guess the "correct" grade yet... not looking for designation.

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:

    @Copperindian said:

    @marcmoish said:
    I am in with EF45, nice example, but its taken , so AU50.

    So is the AU50. I’m thinking, though, he’s looking for either “small date” or “large date” to be included with the grade #. I’m thinking the grade # has been guessed already, but he won’t consider it correct without the type - they are placed beneath the grade on the label. Just a thought….

    No one has guess the "correct" grade yet... not looking for designation.

    35

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Correct as in the number or the prefixes and suffixeses?

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