Anyone know who may have over struck this Ike

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Twobitcollector
Twobitcollector Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 30, 2025 3:27AM in U.S. Coin Forum

may have over struck this Ike, It's not one of Mel Wacks, as far as I can tell.
Thanks for any help. I did try Google but no luck.

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  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2025 3:43PM
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    There are lots of them out there (especially on half dollars) but I don't know who made them. Best chance is to find one listed somewhere with original packaging or shipping materials.

  • duck620
    duck620 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭✭
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    Nope!!

  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I see them on eBay and Worth Point but they never state who does it.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • MetroD
    MetroD Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Steven59 said:
    I see them on eBay and Worth Point but they never state who does it.

    Here is an eBay listing that claims Mel Wacks. Ditto for this WP listing.
    Note - the listings are similar, and appear to be from the same seller.

    Unfortunately, I have been unable to corroborate this information with another source.

    FWIW, here is an ICG slabbed Ike, and a NGC slabbed Kennedy. Have not had time to research these items on the respective TPG websites. But, perhaps doing this, or contacting them and inquiring, would result in more information.

    Good Luck. :)

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2025 7:52AM
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    Definitely not Mel. His catalog of issues is here:

    https://www.tokenandmedal.org/Journal/Journal_files/Counterstamped_Coins_of_Mel_Wacks.pdf

    (It does not include his three most recent issues - Einstein, Pope, Hogg Penny).

    It might well have been produced by the same person who created Mel's, but it's not a Mel Wacks design.

  • MetroD
    MetroD Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @JBK said:
    Definitely not Mel. His catalog of issues is here:

    https://www.tokenandmedal.org/Journal/Journal_files/Counterstamped_Coins_of_Mel_Wacks.pdf

    (It does not include his three most recent issues - Einstein, Pope, Hogg Penny).

    It might well have been produced by the same person who created Mel's, but it's not a Mel Wacks design.

    Like I said, I was unable to corroborate the claim. But, you were able to definitively refute it.

    Thanks for the info. :)

  • DCW
    DCW Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @melwacks used to post here. Maybe he is still lurking? Still around, Mel?

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  • Twobitcollector
    Twobitcollector Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2025 10:51AM
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    @MetroD said:

    @Steven59 said:
    I see them on eBay and Worth Point but they never state who does it.

    Here is an eBay listing that claims Mel Wacks. Ditto for this WP listing.
    Note - the listings are similar, and appear to be from the same seller.

    Unfortunately, I have been unable to corroborate this information with another source.

    FWIW, here is an ICG slabbed Ike, and a NGC slabbed Kennedy. Have not had time to research these items on the respective TPG websites. But, perhaps doing this, or contacting them and inquiring, would result in more information.

    Good Luck. :)

    @MetroD Thanks
    I'm sending my Kennedy and Ike off to ICG today. I now realize that Mel Wacks didn't do theses, that's why PCGS returned my Ike "NO Service"

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  • MWallace
    MWallace Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2025 11:30AM
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    I recently sent one to NGC. I submitted it as a Mel Wacks c/s. It came back as "STATUE OF LIBERTY 100th 1986 COUNTERSTAMP". No mention of Mel Wacks. Now I know why. :'(

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Anyone with a shop press and die-making skills can make something like this, but this issue looks so much like Mel's coins that it might well have been produced by Adam Cool, who did most of Mel's coins. Adam is sadly no longer with us so we so far still don't know.

  • Twobitcollector
    Twobitcollector Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Catbert said:
    Interesting coin!

    How about kindly titling threads with more info? "Anyone know who" doesn't give board members any clue as to what the thread is about and the opportunity to decide whether they wish to read or contribute. Adding "(overstruck Ike)" would be an example of such a courtesy. Thanks for considering in the future.

    @Catbert
    Thanks, I just changed the title.

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  • Twobitcollector
    Twobitcollector Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @JBK said:
    Anyone with a shop press and die-making skills can make something like this, but this issue looks so much like Mel's coins that it might well have been produced by Adam Cool, who did most of Mel's coins. Adam is sadly no longer with us so we so far still don't know.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1043323/mel-wacks-adam-cool-paul-connor-and-chris-beck

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  • Namvet69
    Namvet69 Posts: 9,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Mel's initials MRW, are on his pieces. Peace Roy

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  • MWallace
    MWallace Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Namvet69 said:
    Mel's initials MRW, are on his pieces. Peace Roy

    This is good to know. Thanks.

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