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Look at this 1975 Topps Ryan PSA 8.5 from 4SC.
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Card has wear on top two corners plus major issues with the bottom right corner but it received an 8.5 grade.
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Thats disgusting. This is my Rickey Henderson SGC 8.5 i got back today. SGC so lower grade then this. Its just dumb
Ugh. Very old grade. Consensus here would call that Ryan a 5 today.
The same card has also sold two different times within the past year, so it's a frequent flier. There are at least 3 other '75T Ryan cards in the same range of serial numbers, all NM-MT+ 8.5, which sold a couple years ago. You can reference them on VCP. Each one I viewed had similar ugly corner issues. Gift grades from the gods.
Solid PSA 4 by today’s standards.
Same slab will continue to bounce around as card is Fugly.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
For comparison...here is mine up for auction in the Heritage Spring Auction opened for bidding next week.
I like the 4SC card better. LOL wow what a difference. Beautiful card.
I sent for review….but didn’t bump. Still…a very solid to strong 8.5.
Wow the centering and the purple colors really pop. Beauty.
Of course, me and yankees70 totally agree with the bogus grades received by some org's. Give them discounts not 2+ better grades.
Minton's Ryan looks like an 8.5 or 9. Should Fetch $1,500.
Median enforcement hurt everyone except a tiny few
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
Buy the card not the holder. Those overgraded cards help collectors like me because they bring the comps down.
It's probably a mechanical error that was supposed to be labeled 6.5.
Go take a peek at the other 8.5 examples which were sold in 2023. You will find at least a couple with serial numbers in the same range and corners which are just the same as the one posted by the OP. It's not a mechanical error. It's a gift.
Not understanding your point. Are you saying the card is over graded in an 8.5?
Based on the era it was graded an 8 would have a decent fit. So slightly overgraded. Given year it was submitted not noteworthy IMHO
Nowadays you or I would get a 6 or 7 with a few select interests plausibly garnering an 8.
Buy the Card NOT the Flip applies!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)
My point is that for the OP's example posted here, it's reasonable to question and suggest that it's over graded compared to it's appearance. That good enough for you? As I mentioned before, there are other similar PSA graded examples of the same 1975 Topps Ryan card with the same grade and the same features, including the rough corners. So you tell me, do YOU think the card is over graded?
Elmago could have a point here.
Take a deep breath there slugger. I asked a simple question about clarifying the comment - that is all. If you want to yell at someone find someone else. To answer your question there is an 8.5 on eBay right now that looks much worse than this one, and I have owned and currently own 8’s and 8.5’s of this card and IMO it does not look out of place in an 8.5 holder. Upper right corner might have a hair of a touch, and centering appears to be 52/48 or better which is very good for this issue. Color is outstanding for this card, and print is clear.
Our opinions differ. No one is yelling. Take it easy. Cheers.
Edited to add: Please explain to me which card on eBay you are referring to. The examples I see being offered are the exact same examples being discussed here in this thread.
@KendallCat i think you may be looking at the wrong card in this thread. The one being discussed has borderline paper loss on the bottom right corner, two other touches and is off t/b.
Suspect thats where the disconnect here is.
Allow me to elaborate for clarity. There shall be no yelling.
There is a run of PSA graded cards beginning with serial number 21058325 and ending with 21058415 - all of these cards, with a few exceptions, are 1975 Topps Nolan Ryan #500, PSA graded anywhere from NEAR MINT 7 to MINT 9. There are a few serial numbers within that range which are currently unused. All the rest are '75 Ryans. Many have been graded PSA 8 or 8.5 and a few have sold in recent years, as evidenced on the VCP website. The card posted by the OP at the top of this thread is part of that group. It is currently up for auction on eBay. There's another from this group available as a BIN for $1999.99
If you want to pull up the numbers with the search feature here, some will have images of the graded card. Then you can judge for yourself why multiple examples of this card, with damaged corners, etc. made it through the grading process as they did.
The card posted here with serial #23489742 is totally separate from this conversation, other than, it's beautiful and most certainly represents the assigned grade very well.
fritsch?
Agree. The first one posted does not look like it should be a lower grade, and the one ending in 742 is clearly an 8.5 and a nice one to boot.
You think the first one is a legit 8.5? Cert number 21058384?
I would have never sent in cert 384 expecting a 5 at best.
Agree its not even a 7 in my opinion.
It’s a consignment card graded a long time ago
Correct and the card is still way over graded.
Don’t disagree