The Clipped Planchet Error Coin Thread

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Zoins
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edited March 17, 2025 7:01PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Clipped planchets can create some very interesting errors.

Post clipped planchet coins here!


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  • burfle23
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    Pretty rare for the type:

  • MWallace
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    @Zoins said:
    Clipped planchets can create some very interesting errors.

    Post clipped planchet coins here!


    I love the SBA$.

  • CaptHenway
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    @zer0man said:
    It's minor, but a tough find on gold:

    I assume that they certified that as a double clip rather than one clip plus a Blakesly Effect?

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  • seanq
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    @MWallace said:
    A rare curved and straight clip on the same planchet.

    Mike,

    You must have owned that coin for a long time, I remember it being pictured on your old web page explaining clipped planchet errors.

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • seanq
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    @CaptHenway said:

    @zer0man said:
    It's minor, but a tough find on gold:

    I assume that they certified that as a double clip rather than one clip plus a Blakesly Effect?

    Cap'n,

    I have held that coin in hand, it is a single clip with a strong Blakesley effect. It may look stronger than usual because gold is a soft metal and you do not see many clips of that size on gold coins.

    Sean Reynodls

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • MWallace
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    @seanq said:

    @MWallace said:
    A rare curved and straight clip on the same planchet.

    Mike,

    You must have owned that coin for a long time, I remember it being pictured on your old web page explaining clipped planchet errors.

    Sean Reynolds

    I have had it for a long time. Probably purchased it in the 1980's. My records show that I paid $2 for it. It's one of my favorite coins.

  • seanq
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    @goodmoney4badmoney said:
    This one is at our host getting slabbed at the moment. 1935 about 15% off center on a 15% straight clip (cut-out :)) planchet.

    I saw that coin when it was up for auction and wondered where it landed. Can you tell if it was on a type 1 or type 2 blank? Do you think it will straight grade?

    There was another very nice ragged clipped 1917 dime that sold in the same group of auctions, did you acquire that one as well?

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • goodmoney4badmoney
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    I saw that coin when it was up for auction and wondered where it landed. Can you tell if it was on a type 1 or type 2 blank? Do you think it will straight grade?

    There was another very nice ragged clipped 1917 dime that sold in the same group of auctions, did you acquire that one as well?

    Sean Reynolds

    It appears to have some upset edge where there is no clip to interfere, so I think a type-2. I am hoping it will straight grade, there is a wheel mark across “E Pluribus Unum” on the reverse but it’s pretty small. I didn’t buy the 1917.

  • FredWeinberg
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    I believe it’s a type one blank – I see collar marks on both sides and some light damage too, but I believe it does not have an upset rim –

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • zer0man
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    @CaptHenway said:

    @zer0man said:
    It's minor, but a tough find on gold:

    I assume that they certified that as a double clip rather than one clip plus a Blakesly Effect?

    It was certified as a single clip at the 10 o'clock position. I trust the description given by @seanq above as he was kind enough to help facilitate getting the coin slabbed and sold to me.

  • goodmoney4badmoney
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    @FredWeinberg said:
    I believe it’s a type one blank – I see collar marks on both sides and some light damage too, but I believe it does not have an upset rim –

    I appreciate you commenting Fred. I'll have to look again when I get it back.

  • CaptHenway
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    @seanq said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @zer0man said:
    It's minor, but a tough find on gold:

    I assume that they certified that as a double clip rather than one clip plus a Blakesly Effect?

    Cap'n,

    I have held that coin in hand, it is a single clip with a strong Blakesley effect. It may look stronger than usual because gold is a soft metal and you do not see many clips of that size on gold coins.

    Sean Reynodls

    I yield to your expertise and the fact that you have had the peace in hand.

    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • Zoins
    Zoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is this a clipped planchet or a planchet clip?

    From the Mike @Byers Archives:

    Article: https://mikebyers.com/41941193.html

  • Zoins
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    edited March 18, 2025 11:24PM
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    @MWallace said:

    @Zoins said:
    Clipped planchets can create some very interesting errors.

    Post clipped planchet coins here!


    I love the SBA$.

    Agree 100%!

  • gonzer
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    At what percentage is it considered not a clip but struck on scrap?

  • MWallace
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    @gonzer said:
    At what percentage is it considered not a clip but struck on scrap?

    Good question. Clips and scrap are two different things. Clips are created by the gang punch, the piece of machinery that punches out blanks. Scrap are, for lack of a better description, loose and random pieces of metal.
    @JBK Please correct me if I'm wrong.

  • SullivanNumismatics
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    edited March 19, 2025 5:56AM
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    @gonzer said:
    At what percentage is it considered not a clip but struck on scrap?

    Scrap and fragments are often confused.

    I define fragments as an irregular shaped piece of planchet material, generally unidentifiable as a planchet in shape or size due to its mutilated or improperly made condition. It also cannot be identified as another error type as well (curved clip, straight clip, etc.)

    In the past, a more specific definition I recently read from 1975, was that it was less than 1/4 the size of a normal planchet's weight.

    Scrap has often been defined as coins struck on planchets that are 51% or less of their regular weight. I've never liked the term "scrap" and don't use it since it's pretty vague (like calling all types of clips simply "clip" instead of "straight, curved, crescent, etc.)

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  • seatedlib3991
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    Very unusual coins. Makes me think this is what Cookie Monster's coin collection would look like. james

  • JBK
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    @MWallace said:

    @gonzer said:
    At what percentage is it considered not a clip but struck on scrap?

    Good question. Clips and scrap are two different things. Clips are created by the gang punch, the piece of machinery that punches out blanks. Scrap are, for lack of a better description, loose and random pieces of metal.
    @JBK Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    That sounds good to me. But I suspect there might not be an overwhelming concensus on the issue just yet.

  • Mr Lindy
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    Crescent 25c blank, again, not "Elliptical"

  • UpGrayedd
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  • Zoins
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    edited March 19, 2025 11:48PM
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    @Vetter said:
    My most recent addition to my error Buffalo Nickel collection. A $22 eBay purchase. I couldn’t pass it up for the price.


    It goes well with my 1916 Buffalo

    Wow! $22 is an amazing score!

    Congrats on the coin! Both of them!

  • Byers
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    @Zoins said:
    Is this a clipped planchet or a planchet clip?

    From the Mike @Byers Archives:

    Article: https://mikebyers.com/41941193.html

    It is an elliptical strike clip. It is also considered ‘struck scrap’ but it is actually an elliptical strike clip.

    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • OnWithTheHunt
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    @Vetter said:
    My most recent addition to my error Buffalo Nickel collection. A $22 eBay purchase. I couldn’t pass it up for the price.

    It goes well with my 1916 Buffalo

    I was asleep at the switch on the 1917. GREAT DEAL!

    Proud recipient of the coveted "You Suck Award" (9/3/10).
  • Vorpaledged
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    A few of mine:




  • duck620
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    During WWII rationing was done with stamps and these Red & Blue Tokens to buy goods.
    Here's a Red token with a double clip a different kind of token.



  • lkenefic
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  • heavymetal
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    One of my graded examples.




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