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1madman1madman Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

I hadn’t seen the 69+ grade from any tpg yet, and I personally think it’s about time one of them stepped up to offer this grade. Thank you icg! Now, when will pcgs follow suit?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/127069296829

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if a single glass needed tick separates a 69 from a 70, what's the 69+ look like?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ok, now that's settled. how long is a full length tick and who's measuring them?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    and we'll need to measure width and depth, probably using an ai adjusted 3-d nano scanner to get the total volume. now are we doing half the volume or 1/8th the volume?

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  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 69+ grade for modern bullion strike thru errors actually makes the easiest sense, because the coins are essentially flawless and then you take the lowest possible deduction for the actual error.

    But there are actual special strike coins where the 69+ grade would be top pop and significant. Cheerios dollars and Sacagawea vip strikes come to mind. 1995-w silver eagles may also benefit from the + bump too.

    What other coins would gain value if they garnered the 69+ grade?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    special strikes can be 70s. there are 95W 70s. but they can be 68s

    for any single coin to benefit from a +, it would need to be separated somehow from the 70s and 69s. how?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ah

    going for eye appeal...

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,842 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 23, 2025 1:17PM

    Unfortunately not even perfect 70 moderns in Icg or Anacs holders bring the market as with PCGS and NGC. NGC does plus grades, so does PCGS, but the latter does not do "star" grades.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mr_Spud said:
    I’m holding out for a MS70+

    Or a PO1+

    peacockcoins

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mr_Spud said:
    I’m holding out for a MS70+

    The 70 star grades from NGC are extremely hard to get, and you may want to pursue at least one of those for your core collection. I’ve only owned 1 of the 70star coins, and have seen less than 5 total.

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    special strikes can be 70s. there are 95W 70s. but they can be 68s

    A 95-w in a 69 holder is worth ~$2500-$3000, and a 70 is worth ~$10,000-$12,000. I think that a 69+ would benefit from that added plus and give it a value of ~$5,000.

    There are definitely different degrees of 95-W’s in 69 holders, and once you look at enough of them, you’ll know what a 69+ is. The grade technically does exist, the tpg companies just need to acknowledge it. Problem is there are so many other modern proof coins where the line would be so fine, and there wouldn’t be a price guide increase for a common as dirt proof 69 statehood quarter jumping to an equally common proof 69+ grade (or proof 70 grade for that matter).

  • Too me that seems unecessary

  • CregCreg Posts: 749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @Mr_Spud said:
    I’m holding out for a MS70+

    Or a PO1+

    Wouldn’t that be a P01– ?

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Creg said:

    @braddick said:

    @Mr_Spud said:
    I’m holding out for a MS70+

    Or a PO1+

    Wouldn’t that be a P01– ?

    You would think, but allow me to give it a different texture.
    Here are examples of what I consider to be "PO1 +" Kennedy half dollars:
    (not my coins)


    Here is an example of what I would consider a PO1 Kennedy, yet without the "+"
    (not my coin)

    Just as not all GD4, or any grade level, coins within a series have the same level of attraction, the same can be said about PO1s.

    There are highly attractive XF40 Bust halves. There are also XF40 Bust halves that 'make the grade' yet are stained and/or unnatractive for a variety of reasons.

    So I know it is easy to fallaciously believe a "+" PO1 must be worn even more than a PO1 I'd argue it would be based on appearance within that grade.

    peacockcoins

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🤪

  • safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 125 ✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @Mr_Spud said:
    I’m holding out for a MS70+

    Or a PO1+

    With a gold bean! 😬

  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will buy PCGS/NGC 69s in modern gold on or near spot. I will pay very little premium for a 70.
    69+, ha!

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    69+ sounds like a gas grade - "I always get the +, makes my engine run smoother" :)

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now I've seen everything, what a joke!

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldabeintx said:
    So just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

    69+

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OH - it was "89 PLUS" in my gas tank ! Sorry , not 69+

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qKwv1nmN4s

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