Is the ICONIC "1975 10C No S (Proof) ROOSEVELT ONE" coin back in 1978?!?!
Doctorsam22
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My name is Samuel, and I currently live in Brazil. I would like to share my story with American coins.
After years of keeping them as memories of a 6-month stay in the U.S. in 1980, I decided it was time to rescue these moments. So I had the pleasant surprise of handling some coins that I had carefully kept for 45 years, and how some of them sparked my curiosity to learn more about the history behind these antiques—especially TWO UNCIRCULATED PROOF COINS that have some important characteristics:
Reverse Proof
Reverse proof coins are created by reversing the typical proof finish; the background is frosted, and the design elements are polished. This striking contrast highlights the coin’s design in a unique way, making reverse proofs a popular choice among collectors for their distinct appearance.
High Relief Strike
High relief coins are struck with greater force and feature design elements that rise prominently from the coin’s surface.
No “S” Mint Mark
All proof coins since 1968 have been struck at the San Francisco Mint and feature the coveted “S” mint mark. Proofs are the highest quality coins struck by the U.S. Mint. Proof coins are made for collectors and are not released into circulation.
You can watch the video and evaluate the coins using the link below:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0wi07thlq9x77nv9wtx83/moedas-coin-forum.mp4?rlkey=x9vg3d9t3lw5j4owxp6jiwrx9&dl=0
The coins are:
1976 No “S” Proof Washington Quarter Bicentennial – Uncirculated
1978 No “S” Proof Roosevelt One Dime – Uncirculated
The most interesting thing is that this ROOSEVELT ONE DIME coin appears to be a unique specimen. It has two tiny dots between the chin and the cheek, caused by a planchet defect in the form of a ragged hole.
Not all planchet holes are caused by tensile stresses. Some represent areas formerly filled by foreign matter or areas from which an island of coin metal has fallen out. These holes do not have beveled edges.
You can read more here:
https://www.error-ref.com/ragged-perforations/
I am not an expert, but after researching specialized websites and talking to a cousin living in the U.S., I believe that these coins are highly distinctive and perhaps valuable.
Before submitting them for an evaluation by PCGS, I would like to exchange information and opinions with professionals in the field.
Best regards,
Samuel Gomes
Comments
Hi Samuel, welcome to the forum.
Perhaps if you posted photos of the coins in question you could get a little information.
well lit, straight on photos, not rotated and of both sides
drag and drop photos from desktop into text box
These look like business strikes, not proofs.
The fields should look like mirrors on proofs.
The 2 dents on the chin of the time are likely contact marks from the reeded edge of another dime.
The proof coin should have surfaces which are polished and very shiny like a mirror.
The business strike coin surfaces are less shiny - not polished.
Above photos are from PCGS CoinFacts.
Business strikes. Not proofs.
(The edge also tells the story).
I wish that everyone would put more emphasis on the "mirror" part of the description of proof coins. A "mirror" doesn't mean "somewhat shiny" as in the OP's video. It means a LITERAL mirror -- you can stand a modern proof coin on edge and read a book entirely by looking at the reflection in the coin. The OP's coins aren't even slightly close to that, therefore "not proofs" and there's nothing more to discuss.
Yes, I understand there are some proof coins with matte or satin surfaces, and there are some non-proof coins that are reflective. For all of the cases that confuse non-collectors, those cases are academic.
Welcome and a cool start 😎
Howdy and welcome.
Your post reads like a hybrid of AI-generated text and misguided enthusiasm.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Perhaps this is the cause- just thinking off the top of my head:
Maybe they’re not the sort of people you might be able to get along with easily to begin with, everyone has their own sort of people they like and oftentimes they might also not be open for a dedicated friendship without thorough understanding.
A lot of people judge on first impressions because it takes a lot more time out of someone’s life to actually get to know someone and who knows if it’ll be good or bad. Being too enthusiastic may be fun but a lot of people can be very tired based on stuff in their lives.
Sometimes being “out there and silly” makes other people uncomfortable. To be frank, if you want more people to warm up to you fast it’s good to be more reserved, respectful, and not too honest but take it slow and slowly introduce all aspects of your personality as they slowly get more comfortable with it. Like not boring and stale obviously, but too much energy tends to drive people away because it’s overwhelming. People are so diverse, that if you show the entirety of yourself immediately if you’re a ball of energy, it may clash with their perspective of comfortability. Gotta be considerate when meeting new people.
Also, I will say, people with high energy, (if they’re not disrespectful and inconsiderate), grow on people a lot over time if they’re nice and caring. However, they will face issues with people who are insecure who take their words strangely. If you’re very honest it’s good to be equally aware and smart because the entire world cannot be as nice and high energy as you. Being aware and capable of handling the insecurities of other people is a VERY useful skill to learn. I recommend it.
As long as you’re not using your high energy to touch on too many sensitive topics such as the main isms and such things, and you care and try not to be too daft and be considerate to others and listen properly and ask good questions, it should be good.
Also, low confidence could also influence this. People who have less confidence often end up clingy and perhaps possessive. This sincerely stresses people out a lot. Like texting every day often make people feel overwhelmed. It should always be a slow increase. Too much creates stress which can eventually lead to fear. That’s why if you’re high energy, it’s good to try to have a lot of friends to cycle through. This can be difficult to get though. Make sure you’re always considerate, but identify that you’re your own person and can set boundaries etc. People love people who can set boundaries. It makes them feel like they can set their own, since most people are doormats. People also like confident people because when anyone has to face someone else’s insecurities, when they don’t care too much for them yet, it crosses over their own boundaries. Obviously, you can talk about it if they’re okay with it. This can be communicated. Usually is better if you know them well enough too. Generally, if you can respect their boundaries, and you guys get along, they’ll like you.
Now, this is a very mathematical view, but it works quite well. Friendships are an equal give and take. If you don’t give them at least one of these things such as: laughter, comfortability, a better mood, mental health support, etc etc, Then they won’t give you anything.
Make sure you don’t give too much towards people who won’t give you much though. Unbalanced stuff usually leads to a toxic relationship.
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I think you're overthinking it. He said he spent 6 months in the US 45 years ago. It might be safe to assume that English is not his first language but based on his introductory paragraphs he does extremely well with it.
Other parts of his post are AI or copied from somewhere, but at least he was making an effort to learn.
for the original author, and in general, after searching thousands and thousands of half dollars, i have come across heavily circulated proof that lost almost all of the mirrors(more later). despite that, the coins' strike quality was obvious enough to give me pause. it was a proof and more examination up close and personal, there was hints of mirrors in places that rubbing and contact from use had trouble getting.
just from the strike quality, that is not a circulated proof. look at the definition of the ear. also, i'd expect remains of the mirrors in hard to reach areas like between the oak leaves, between the olive leaves and branch, plus inside the letters.
I didn't send the photos before because their resolution was poor.
But today I managed to improve them considerably with an electronic microscope that my daughter used at school years ago.
I hope this helps to provide more details.
I appreciate the messages and information provided, which motivate me to send them for certification.
The technical information was taken from information and research on errors in American coins, as described in the link sent.
Those are certainly business strikes, not proofs. Look at the weak strike on the torch and the obverse legends on the dime, and the drum on the reverse of the quarter.
Just so you know. 1980 was the first year that the Philly Roosevelt dime got a P Mint Mark. Before that all coins from Philly had no MM.
do NOT send them in for certification
you've gor spending money
Those are very obviously normal business strikes, with the dime not even being a particularly good one.
Any money spent on grading will be wasted.
If the posts here convinced you to submit, you might want to use translate.google.com
This are common business strike coins and not worth being certified. There is ZERO chance they are "no S proof coins".
You have posted two coins worth a combined thirty-five cents. They are common business strike coins worth only face value. If you want to certify them go ahead, but I can save you some time instead-
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
What's an uncirculated proof
a proof that hasn't circulated
i have circulated proofs. pcgs has graded circulated proof/specimen coins
but yeah, generally we don't say "proof - uncirculated"