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How would you grade this 1964 washington, DDR?

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  • ShurkeShurke Posts: 650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jgivigl said:
    The pcgs image in their price guide for a DDR is clear. This quarte looks exactly the same as theirs, but was not graded as a variety.

    Of the four DDRs listed for this issue, the mechanical doubling on your coin somewhat resembles FS-804, but it’s far from being exactly the same. The true DDR shows strong splits in the serifs across the legend. Just looking at the pictures in CoinFacts, these splits are most visible on the uprights of the U, the crossbar of the T, and the top crossbar of the E.

    Your coin shows none of these splits.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    follow this link and look at the top of the U and notice the split serifs

    varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20Vol%202/DDR%20Detail%20Pages/1964PDDR001.htm

    trying again to see if the original poster can read - your coin does not have split serifs

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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Need to see good photos of both sides of the coin to venture a guess.
    Even at that, grading from photos is not a perfect art.

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Need full picture of front and back. But in this case your coin is not a DDR - it is machine doubling which does not carry a premium.

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  • What is the The diffenerce from the PGS DDR pics?

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too much for me to explain. You'll have to look that up on the internet and read up on it.

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  • This is not an art. It is what it is. If this is a DDR, which does not need a pic of OBV. A variety or not?

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jgivigl said:
    This is not an art. It is what it is. If this is a DDR, which does not need a pic of OBV. A variety or not?

    You didn't ask is it a variety only you also asked for a grade:

    No one can grade a coin from photos of only 1/8th of one side of a coin, thus to answer your question the forum members need to see photos of both sides of the coin. However, as to the variety issue your coin is not a DDR, just worthless strike doubling.

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jgivigl said:
    This is not an art. It is what it is. If this is a DDR, which does not need a pic of OBV. A variety or not?

    It isn't what it isn't. Do your research.

  • research

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jgivigl said:

    Not your coin. Your coin is not even match for that variety, nor is it any DDR variety.

    Fail.

  • show me the difference

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jgivigl said:
    show me the difference

    You show me the difference. That's the only way you'll learn something.

  • That coin is a PGCS variety DDR

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jgivigl said:
    That coin is a PGCS variety DDR

    Like I said, that is not your coin.

    Fail.


  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    follow this link and look at the top of the U and notice the split serifs

    varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20Vol%202/DDR%20Detail%20Pages/1964PDDR001.htm

  • The pcgs image in their price guide for a DDR is clear. This quarte looks exactly the same as theirs, but was not graded as a variety.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Send it in for grading, attribution and slabbing. You obviously aren't interested in what forum members have to say.

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  • It was sent in for grading and variety. It was graded as ms64, no variety. I guess I'm not clear with my question. Does this coin look like a DDR. I think it does. looking for opinions.



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  • PickinndGrinninPickinndGrinnin Posts: 236 ✭✭✭

    That is MD (flat and shelflike), combined with some die deterioration doubling.

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jgivigl said:
    Does this coin look like a DDR. I think it does. looking for opinions.

    a) No, it doesn't. And no, you're not looking for opinions. You're looking for facts. Whether something is or isn't a DDR is a question of fact, not an opinion.

    b) None of that is relevant. PCGS will not attribute a coin as "a" DDR. They will only attribute a coin as being an example of some specific DDR. If your coin doesn't match the reference image EXACTLY -- and yours doesn't, not even close -- then it's not the same and will not be attributed as the same.

  • CoinHunter4CoinHunter4 Posts: 411 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2025 7:35AM

    And FYI, "MD" stands for Machine Doubling which is something quite different than a DDR

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