Coins with Greatest Liquidty
Higashiyama
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Among coins with a significant numismatic premiums (so excluding bullion coins), which have the greatest liquidity? I'm curious to hear people's thoughts and examples.
By liquidity, I mean adequate demand and a relatively high degree of certainly with respect to retail value. Perhaps these would be coins that you could likely resell shortly after acquisition for 85 - 90 % of your purchase price?
(There are of course many wonderful coins with limited liquidity, but higher end and more modest coins)
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Liberty Seated Dollars.
How do you define “significant numismatic premium” in terms of dollar value and/or premium over melt value?
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I'm not a dealer and so don't know the whole market, just a type set collector, but I have been watching the market for the earliest US coins for a long time. The very first stuff - 1793-96 or so, the chain/wreath cents, the flowing hair silver, always-always-always gets bid right up to the top of the market. I finally took the plunge and these things are big bucks, but I have no doubt I'd recoup my expense when the time comes to sell. (minus the auction fees of course, that's the cost of ownership.)
@MFeld - my goal would be to include coins where short term fluctuations in precious metal prices don’t affect the sales price much. To try to be more precise, let’s say that the numismatic value is at least 5x the bullion value? So, I think this would include virtually all copper and silver, and most older or rare date gold.
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Thank you.
Here are some coins that quickly come to mind:
MS66 common date Morgan dollars, circulated 1909-S VDB and 1955 DDO cents,1937-D three legged nickels, 1916-D dimes, and Capped Bust half dollars.
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In some ways cac takes the guesswork out of trying to figure out where a certified coin stands relative to its assigned grade. I'd say that they have introduced a lot of liquidity with their backing.
Red Book varieties seem to be pretty liquid.
Key-date coins in popular series such as 1877 Indian cents, 1909SVDB Lincoln cents, 1916-D Mercury dimes, !932 D&S quarters, 1893-S Morgan dollars, etc,
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Melted coins are very liquid before they cool
Pre-1933 slabbed common date US gold coins are extremely liquid.
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I don't follow Washington quarters; but, I've been told by friends that 1932 D & S quarters have really come down in value. Is that not the case?
I haven't been following the Washington quarter market but I imagine your friends are talking about gem level slabbed coins. I also imagine that the coins in the circulated grades such as VF, XF, and AU readily sells to those who are plugging holes in their coin album. Just because the price drops on a coin, it doesn't mean that it isn't liquid.
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For coins whose numismatic value is at least 5x the bullion value, my choice for most liquid would be uncirculated Carson City Morgan dollars.
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When I asked the OP what he meant by “significant numismatic premium” he replied:
“@MFeld - my goal would be to include coins where short term fluctuations in precious metal prices don’t affect the sales price much. To try to be more precise, let’s say that the numismatic value is at least 5x the bullion value? So, I think this would include virtually all copper and silver, and most older or rare date gold”
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They have declined in value over my lifetime when adjusting for inflation.
Better date coins.
Precisely. The gem key dates in the Washington quarter series have come down in value, but choice and near gem examples have increased. Also collector coins in grades, such as XF and VF are always in strong demand.
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Graded coins tend to be more liquid than raw coins. Was that part of the equation?
@MFeld
I dont disagree completely as the demand is there but most of those always have so many available. I have found it can be a challenge getting yours noticed at close to retail. There are other coins that don't have the same demand but due to their scarcity I have found them easier to move in multiple different avenues.
Basically which formula = the most liquid? 100 buyers for 200 coins (100 of them move but maybe not yours) or 10 buyers for 2 coins (only 2 move but both of them do). As a small time guy I find it easier to move coins that are not found in many if any cases. I know dealers like coins they can stock with lots of buyers which is why classic key dates in popular series tug at their hearts but I'm not so sure they are individually the most liquid as they are statistically the most.
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Key date coins, CAC green and gold beans, and classic types with good eye appeal.
Key dates with nice eye appeal.
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Defer to dealers but surprised so many here say key dates. I’d think common date ms65-66 Morgan dollars or Peace dollars would be more liquid. (Exception being 1909-S VDB, which made its way beyond the coin world and into pop culture).
By way of analogy a friend owns one the premier vintage guitar stores in the U.S. He has guitars owned by Hendrix, Clapton and Jerry Garcia for upwards of six figures. But he makes his money in the $10k-20k 1940’s and 1950’s Gibson and Martins market because they turnover so quickly.
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Semi-key date coins within popular series are doing well.
1909-S Lincoln. 1931-S Lincoln. 1924-D Lincoln.
1931-S Buffalo nickel. 1913-D & S type one Buffalo nickels.
1921-D & S Mercury dimes.
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In my buying and selling experience, the following are easy to sell:
Everything else being equal, I'd put actual rarity and uncommon eye appeal at the top of the list.
Expensive, rare, pretty coins are sometimes ridiculously easy to sell. There are a lot of people (and a lot of dollars) chasing the very best coins. Of course, they're not so easy to buy.
Hopefully your rich uncle will leave you some in his will.
If I ever decide to sell my favorite 2 or 3 coins, I already have a list of people who say they want to buy them. It's no guarantee that they will feel the same way when the time comes, but it's a nice way to start.
Coins that you chase for 5 years are usually pretty easy to sell. Coins that you can buy in any quantity at any time aren't so easy to move.
Bullion Coins especially close to melt. Slabbed bullion coins also very popular and very affordable.
I think with losses in equities and projection by NY Prepper more to come bullion could be on way up. Numismatic coins you need a buyer who wants the coin. Furthermore if a market crash I expect CDN bids come down on big ticket numismatic material. People are going to be losing their jobs…if really big equities market crash.
Your reply completely ignored the question from @Higashiyama in his opening post:
“Among coins with a significant numismatic premiums (so excluding bullion coins), which have the greatest liquidity? I'm curious to hear people's thoughts and examples.”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Big deal so what lol - my post was answering the title of the thread vs what some other poster thinks.
I understand - you don’t dare do any extra reading or care whether what you post pertains to the question or topic at hand.
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