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MS65 1947-S/S/S Soap Box Washington Quarter Variety Question

Matt04Matt04 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
edited March 23, 2025 6:38PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Quick question, there are two RPM Varieties as per PCGS. Which one would S/S/S be considered? Also from the looks of it seems to be under-graded ! In great shape


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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1947-s-25c/5835

    scroll down and click on "Related Coins and Varieties (4)" on the left

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i'm not blind and can't argue with the anacs label

    this will have to be resolved by someone knowledgable about not only the varieties, but pcgs' label recognition of certain varieties

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you have a cherrypickers guide? That is what PCGS certifies. The Coneca RPM-002 is FS-502. I would check close-up pics before I cracked and submitted. With cost of grading/variety it might be a wash unless you need a FS-502

    varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20Vol%202/RPM%20Detail%20Pages/1947SRPM002.htm

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you havenough room in the op title

    edit it to include anacs 1947-S/S/S

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  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    you havenough room in the op title

    edit it to include anacs 1947-S/S/S

    Done

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    Do you have a cherrypickers guide? That is what PCGS certifies. The Coneca RPM-002 is FS-502. I would check close-up pics before I cracked and submitted. With cost of grading/variety it might be a wash unless you need a FS-502

    varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20Vol%202/RPM%20Detail%20Pages/1947SRPM002.htm

    yes. the other direction. try posting hyper-close pics of the mm on yours

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  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    Do you have a cherrypickers guide? That is what PCGS certifies. The Coneca RPM-002 is FS-502. I would check close-up pics before I cracked and submitted. With cost of grading/variety it might be a wash unless you need a FS-502

    varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20Vol%202/RPM%20Detail%20Pages/1947SRPM002.htm

    I don't but I should probably pick one up! Im unsure yet if I will crack out but It looks like It could grade MS67. Cheek looks clean with no scuff, good luster and field is good

  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @davewesen said:
    Do you have a cherrypickers guide? That is what PCGS certifies. The Coneca RPM-002 is FS-502. I would check close-up pics before I cracked and submitted. With cost of grading/variety it might be a wash unless you need a FS-502

    varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20Vol%202/RPM%20Detail%20Pages/1947SRPM002.htm

    yes. the other direction. try posting hyper-close pics of the mm on yours

    I will when I have it in hand, I can't at this very moment but I will send one as soon as I can. My Apologies.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting that the 30 feedback seller sold it twice today. I hope you get it and for the $110 sale.

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2025 11:30PM

    One problem with old Anac's, they would often listen to the client's wishes and put on the label what they thought it was with ANACS' blessing. Even tho it wasn't a known variety. The second problem is I have a few old Anac's holders that read doubed die and while it technically was it was so minor that nobody would ever care. Obviously a request by the submitter and if ANACS were able to call it that they would but it added zero value because an electron microscope would be required to validate it.
    Edited to add, this could be Fs-502 but the submitter called it a tripled die and ANACS saw it that way even tho the FS-502 is considered a doubled die where the third is possibly so minor it is ignored by all

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DaRigMan04 said:

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @davewesen said:
    Do you have a cherrypickers guide? That is what PCGS certifies. The Coneca RPM-002 is FS-502. I would check close-up pics before I cracked and submitted. With cost of grading/variety it might be a wash unless you need a FS-502

    varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20Vol%202/RPM%20Detail%20Pages/1947SRPM002.htm

    yes. the other direction. try posting hyper-close pics of the mm on yours

    I will when I have it in hand, I can't at this very moment but I will send one as soon as I can. My Apologies.

    no apologies needed we're all collector's here and you obviously know more about quarters than i

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  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2025 6:58PM

    @davewesen said:
    Interesting that the 30 feedback seller sold it twice today. I hope you get it and for the $110 sale.

    Ebay is stupid and did an automatic checkout without me choosing the correct payment method so I had him cancel it and had him relist it for me to send an offer to buy again on the correct method of payment. Seller had quick and good communications !

  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:
    One problem with old Ana's, they would often listen o the client's wishes and put on the table what they thought it was with ANACS' blessing. Even tho it wasn't a known variety. The second problem is I have a few old Ana's holders that read doubed died while it technically was it was so minor that nobody would ever care. Obviously a request but he submitter and if ANACS were able to call it that they would but it added zero value because an electron microscope would be required.
    edited to add, this could be Fs-502 but the submitter Calle dit. articled die and ANACS saw it that way even tho the FS-502 is considered a doubled die where the third is possibly so manor it is ignored

    ill see when I get it in hand, it seems under-graded by the photos I was provided but im not sure on cracking it out.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think you are safe on it being RPM-002. I have also cracked out those old white labels and have gotten an extra point, not sure if I have ever gotten 2. Frequently the slab adds attractive toning. I am not sure if that dark stuff around edge helps much in this case.

  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2025 7:07PM

    @davewesen said:
    I think you are safe on it being RPM-002. I have also cracked out those old white labels and have gotten an extra point, not sure if I have ever gotten 2. Frequently the slab adds attractive toning. I am not sure if that dark stuff around edge helps much in this case.

    Im hoping the good luster & issue free obverse besides for the toning gives it a chance at MS67. The cheek looks in great shape & field. I have alot of WQ's coming in! Excited

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    could he submit in the holder to cross just to prevent a downgrade?

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  • Matt04Matt04 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    could he submit in the holder to cross just to prevent a downgrade?

    Yes anac is a crossover option for pcgs. But would that make it less likely to get graded higher ? Vs Raw submission?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DaRigMan04 said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    could he submit in the holder to cross just to prevent a downgrade?

    Yes anac is a crossover option for pcgs. But would that make it less likely to get graded higher ? Vs Raw submission?

    that's an eternal debate

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