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Conservation thoughts on this?

DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 18, 2025 9:36AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This very rare VAM is currently in a straight-graded PCGS holder.
The several small dark areas (mainly around the obverse rim) are quite distracting.
Do you think PCGS can/could/would do anything to improve the situation?


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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two good answers.

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldabeintx said:
    Two good answers.

    Probably not an option, but is there any way you could have it conserved with the stipulation being a straight grade only request? I should just go ahead and answer my own question...

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was the VAM recorded on the label by PCGS?

    I see more downside than upside here. You are unable to undo whatever happens. And I just do not see a reason to be optimistic that restoration will meet expectations… then what?

    I guess I am not as distracted by the distractions as you might be. Instead, I see coin that would be a privilege to own… if I were still a VAM collector.

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LeeBone said:

    @oldabeintx said:
    Two good answers.

    Probably not an option, but is there any way you could have it conserved with the stipulation being a straight grade only request? I should just go ahead and answer my own question...

    It's not an option, it's a requirement (or feature if you prefer). As long as you submit in the original holder, the coin is guaranteed to be returned as at least the same grade, regardless of the results of the conservation.

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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m going to guess that the overall look of the coin would be worse. If they are able to remove the spots, my guess is that the coin would have an unnatural, whiter look. It has a nice originality IMO. I would send a photo to our host and ask them what they think. Or, send it in but ask for feedback before they mess with it. I’ve only had experience with NGC, but they’ve been very good about telling me when conservation is a bad idea. Sometimes they just refuse to do anything.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,483 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those "small dark areas" wouldn't bother me if that were my coin or if I was considering it for purchase.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i hope they would spot treat it, but you'll still be left with some kind of discoloration(spots) because you'll never balance the spot color with the color of the rest

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two other questions that may influence your decision… how many have you seen and how does your coin compare to the surviving population?

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photos make the coin look cleaned. Would a "details" grade be in its future if slabbed again?

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not think those black spots on rim & cap can ever be conserved properly. Enjoy as-is.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,483 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coastaljerseyguy said:
    I do not think those black spots on rim & cap can ever be conserved properly. Enjoy as-is.

    ....or sell it and buy something else.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would be way more concerned about the surfaces than the dark spots. It looks like the rarity carried the grade as far as it could, and I fear another dip would be enough to push it into the "details" zone.

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