Are you finding coins you need for sale in 2025?
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Added 3 coins in January but not a single coin has showed up I need in February. It is a much slower year so far on my end.
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It is a tough beginning of year for us Peru and Guatemala guys. May have to get back to building my Mexico set if things stay this way for a while longer. Just to keep busy.
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I am finding coins but the question of whether I need them is a separate question.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
I am finding quite a few. Acquiring them reasonably is challenging.
I agree. The competition has been stiff recently. I often make some opportunistic purchases by now and I haven't yet.
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Nope. I got two but usually do better.
Well, just Love coins, period.
2 months in and not a single Guatemala coin I need or do not need has showed up on eBay. This is the longest I have seen like this in almost 2 years of collecting Guatemalan coins.
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If things do not pick up I will continue my US dime collection (life long goal). I would be happy just to add 3-4 new Peru and 3-4 Guatemala 1 reales I need in 2025. Not asking for much.
So far I suppose I am doing well:
Peru added 2 new coins and Guatemala 1 new coin. Just added 2 new US dimes as well.
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Not on the bourses anymore that's long gone. Lots of fun in the 80's come home from a show with a handful every time.
Auctions yes ,but big money over my head.
A very few from acquaintances/friends.
Registry still still upgrading thru deep exhaustive hunting and luck. maybe 3 to 6 a year??
I bought 11 coins last year and one so far this year, a duplicate. Nothing of interest at Heritage, Stacks, Aureo Calico, Sixbid, or the ANA show I attended last week.
I bought one of 11 coins last year from eBay. In 2023, 1 of 12. In 2022, 1 of 6. In 2021, I only bought one coin but not from eBay. That's all I could find anywhere or maybe I was outbid but don't remember. Somewhat more in prior years but not consistent.
If I can find anything on eBay, it's a win.
I have to get use to it the more my collection get closer to completion. I will keep busy with my US dime collection if things stay slow for long periods of time.
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Not yet, but a lot of big sales coming this year
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Nothing at FUN but a bunch of tokens at the ANA in Atlanta. Had to stretch to get them but pleased with the purchase.
I have been upgrading via Heritage and Stack's. Still looking for 3 coins to fill my Canada date set.
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Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
March has been good to me so far picked up 4 Latin American coins I needed.
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Yes and no!.......
Found a Lima 1 Real 1752, BUT, with a major hole. At best a placeholder until a better one shows up.
Ah, you got that one. Strange time for the listing so I missed it
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Sorry about that.....but, don't worry. 1752's, at least the holed ones seem to crop up at the rate of one every one or two years, or so - just keep your eyes peeled. The rare ones are the ones which are intact. I have only seen 3 examples.
They’re rare, but they show up on occasion. I have two at the moment, one certified, the other soon to be (actually they both were, but one needed some glue or something cleaned off before getting a straight grade. It’s currently sitting in acetone.)
Also, that was a great price! Even for holed example. The last holed one I bought cost multiples of that price at auction. Granted, it was a higher grade, the hole didn’t affect the date, and it’s a very pretty example. Another forum member here owns it now.
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Two 1752's ??! you must really like that date. If you get a chance, please post them.
This is the Ebay coin - mighty big hole obliterates part of the date, but mercifully, not the key part.
For 50 bucks i'd say it's OK.
The good thing about this one is that it was for sale in the EU so no import taxes.
I recently bought a terrible 55 but got caught for import tax so EU purchases only from now on.
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Just curious, what is the import tax?
I buy most of my coins from the EU and on many I see the included VAT, but no import tax to the USA.
Picked up this 1770 Mexico 1 real I needed for my set:
You did the right thing buy one when you can and replace it over time. I purchased my from SimonW it is holed but the the top and the details on the the coin are in the EF range. I will not replace it I am happy with it long term. I have never seen a 1752 1 real up for sale in 2 years (the one I have was a private sale...I paid 275$ for mine but I am very happy with it and would buy it again at he same price).
You got yours at a great price if I did not own one I would have paid 125$. 1752's are very rare I count myself lucky to own one.
My guess would be that about 10-20 1752 milled Peru 1 reales exist. Yonaka states he has seen 4 in his book. They are very rare holed or not holed.
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Counting both holed and unholed specimens:
ACsearch has (7) different examples. Aureo Calico's archive shows (3) addl. earlier auctions without pics, so unknown what duplication there. I find (2) attributed examples in eBay archives, the recent holed piece just auctioned and a nice example in 2022... I would think it's near certain a few others surfaced misattributed or in group lots on eBay over the years.
This is my invoice from a recent Ebay purchase in the U.S, shipped to me in EU:
No Duties per invoice, but a 19 % V.A.T. on Item + Shipping.........
If you really want the Item no recourse but to pay.
Gone are the days when sellers would just charge $7 for USPS shipping, put it in an envelope and be done with it.
Absolutely!
The VAT on Ebay sales in the U.S shipped to EU is a killer. I was really glad this 1752 Real was ex. EU.
Thank you very much for sharing!
I have seen the bottom one before in one of the Peruvian FB groups.
Nice example of a very scarce coin, and only the 3rd. example I have seen without a hole.
I've seen yours (I think), and liked it. It's a keeper.
Looks like a example auctioned a while back at RP Numis. I missed that one so was glad to get the Ebay example.
I agree with your estimate on the number of examples extant. Most are holed, and only 3 examples without, at least as far as I have seen thus far.
I’m sure there’s more like 50, but that still means it’s very very rare. We only see a small cross section. Not everything hits the market and not everything auctions or shows up very often. Some of the most important collections will probably never come to market, some only after 100 years.
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The one on eBay, which I had the chance to buy in 2022, I passed on. It’s a nice AU but has some kind of damage/mint flaw and didn’t straight grade. As far as I know it’s the best example known. A forum member here owns it.
In retrospect I should have bought it.
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The example in Yonaka's book is also not holed.
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That is possible. So anywhere from say 25-50 could exist total. If that is the case I doubt the mintage Yonaka stated for this date and denomination of 424 total minted is correct. Unless by some miracle this many actually survived I guess we will never know.
If more than 424 were minted WCC's theory could be correct.
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Who knows, whatever the extant population, it’s tough as nails to find, probably doesn’t exist in UNC anywhere. Not more than a few are better than Fine. It’s rare, by any metric. Probably on par with the 1766, if not slightly more common.
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Agreed. For now I will stick with what Yonaka stated mintage of 424 (1752 milled Peru 1 real) until there is a proven theory that says otherwise. I do not believe anyone will ever be able to prove Yonaka wrong. It is just a theory based on how many still survive today. Maybe 1752's simply good lucky and maybe 1% survived.
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Yonaka didn’t make that number up, he got it from official records. The problem is, you don’t know if the ones minted in 1753 were all dated 1753, or if they used up the dies leftover from 1752. That’s a practice that happened regularly during some time periods. Waste not…
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I recently purchased a few gold pieces I have been looking for. This Inonu coin has a shared mintage of 235 with one with the head of Kemal Ataturk. I now have both. Anyone here know how to verify the mintage in Krause? Is there a current Turkey coin guide available?
I don't own two 1752's but do of numerous others. More on a few. It's about all I buy since I don't like anything better. I've thought about what else I can or could buy with the same money but most on my potential list can be bought with little if any difficulty.
Most coins seem to be more common or a lot more common than most collectors seem to think. When South Africa was my primary interest up to 2010, those collectors consistently claimed the TPG data was mostly complete and underestimated the supply.
Why did they do this?
Mostly motivated to exaggerate, as it was evident they were attempting to convince others to increase the price, but also for the same reason others do. They place too much reliance on their own observations or what others tell them, including in reference books.
With this coinage, I didn't know the mintage until Yonaka's book was published. I still believe the survival rates are really low especially in higher quality, but many of the mintages are (much) higher than I would have expected. This increases the probability of potential surprises. Absent hoards, I can't imagine any scenario where any will be close to "common" in any better quality, but it can still be a (low) multiple to the still virtually non-existent supply for individual dates.
Gilboy's book is one example where the estimates are probably or almost certainly too high. The book uses a rarity scale which isn't completely clear to me, but I see virtually no possibility the coins he estimates as the most common exist in the supply claimed. One example is the 1765 1/2R which is claimed to be "common" with over 1,000 survivors in VF. The price is still low but not so low where it should be so difficult to find. There are two MS-62 in the NGC census, but I don't recall seeing any other nice or decent ones. If I did, it's really few.
I suppose I never have anything I need in a wantlist sort of way. More so, I look to buy what is special and fits my collection whenever the opportunity arises.
I’d like a super high grade and attractive CAR 8R but I have no urgency because the one coin I hold to the highest standard likely won’t be for sale for several years.
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I’m quite envious of your collection. I don’t even come close. Most of the coins I own are garbage in comparison, with only a few notable exceptions. Your 1752 is quite a coin, why would you need more than one? It’s the best anyone has ever seen, as far as I know.
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If your collection is garbage I do not know what to say. You have a great collection SimonW. Took you many years to buy the best that were available to buy. You and WCC have impressive collections. I will upgrade some of my coins over time but for now just happy to own what I can in any grades.
I am just happy been able to collect them (in my case 1 reales only). After 2 years of looking some are more common but even then I have yet to see 10 example of any given date maybe max so far is 6 examples. The rarer ones I have seen 1 or 2 and a few I have yet to even see (ex: 1760 Carolus Peru 1 real).
SimonW you own some of the rarest dates out there in multiples series to boot. I would consider you collection a great accomplishment. WCC may be on another level but he has been at it for 15+ years. You have been at it for what 3-5 years and me not even 2 full years so far.
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@TheGoonies1985 thanks! The first one I bought was back in 2008 or thereabouts, but I was very casual and didn’t really hit it hard until 2021. Mostly I just didn’t know anything about the series so I was reluctant to pay up for coins. Yonaka changed that. A good book with plenty of helpful information.
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For my own collection, there have been all kinds of great Mexican War of Independence coins this year. I wonder if the recent high prices have motivated more people to sell? And the best auctions of the year are yet to come....
If it was not for you I would still be missing some of the rarest dates from Peru 1752-1772. Because of you I own 6 coins I would be still looking to add. Without your help I would not be at 91% complete and I am very much appreciative of the coins you sold me.
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Thanks for the compliment. I'm not looking to buy another 1752.
After 2 years of looking some are more common but even then I have yet to see 10 example of any given date maybe max so far is 6 examples. The rarer ones I have seen 1 or 2 and a few I have yet to even see (ex: 1760 Carolus Peru 1 real).
Any coin that shows up 10 times for sale in two years isn't really that scarce. That's once about every two months. You're inferring a comparison to US and Canadian coins which can mostly be bought at any time in practically any quality.
The ones I have seen the most of (Peru 1 reales 1752-1772) are the 1755 Peru 1 real and 1757 Peru 1 real.
1755 = 8 total
1757 = 6 total
As for the rarer dates the one I have seen the most of is 1769 with a total of 4. But that may be an abnormality will see over the next few years how many show up. I was lucky enough to get one with no damage and appears to be around F-12 condition.
Over a 2 year period.
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