Is that a grade??? Lightly circulated? (HaHa). Anyway what makes you say that? What about this coin indicates it’s been circulated? I know I’m asking questions of people who know a great deal about coins but as I’ve said I am not looking for the value here I’m just very interested in knowing about these coins and the grading categories.
@Goldengirl13 said:
Is that a grade??? Lightly circulated? (HaHa). Anyway what makes you say that? What about this coin indicates it’s been circulated? I know I’m asking questions of people who know a great deal about coins but as I’ve said I am not looking for the value here I’m just very interested in knowing about these coins and the grading categories.
There is wear on the high points of the coin.
Look at the Photograde pictures online. You can also buy or access grading guides online that will explain it.
@Goldengirl13 said:
What about this coin indicates it’s been circulated? I know I’m asking questions of people who know a great deal about coins but as I’ve said I am not looking for the value here I’m just very interested in knowing about these coins and the grading categories.
Light circulation can be difficult to detect when you’re starting out. I recommend you google PCGS CoinFacts, which will get you to a very information rich website. Scroll to the heading that says “Dollars” and click on Morgan dollars. Near the top of the page will be a group of blue icons; you’ll want to click on the camera icon labeled “Photograde.”
The Photograde page has representative pictures of Morgan dollars in every grade, and you can go back and forth comparing various grades in detail. Uncirculated grades run from MS60-MS69. Circulated grades start at AU58 (the most lightly circulated) and go down from there, though the first grade that actually looks circulated will probably be AU55.
It certainly is difficult to put a grade on my coin after looking and looking at the grading examples. Some that were graded 65 looked like mine. To be truthful the coins I own look better than all the photos of circulated coins online. I even printed out blowups of grades plus my own and compared.
If you would point out the areas of the coin I posted that you feel show circulated. On the photo on the PCGS uncirculated there seems to be the same issue in the areas that I judged as “wear” but they said it was still uncirculated. Very confusing.
If I’m wasting everybody’s time you don’t need to answer.
You really should post additional pictures of more of your coins if you really are seeking accurate feedback. You can look at hundreds of pictures. It is not the same as seeing hundreds or thousands of coins in person. A thing a great many people on here have done.
Fact is, most people who show up here are not looking for real advice. They just want to be told they are right about conclusions they have all ready come to. James
P.S. the breaks in luster and wear points are quite apparent even in picture form on the coin posted
Here is probably the best close-up large photo of 1 of my uncirculated coins. Look at the hair detail, it is not smooth, and the top leaf in the cap. See the veins breaking out of the thicker vertical center line. Look at the pin holes in the cotton blossoms. And just as important, the luster should look like just minted without breaks. It will take a while but you will eventually see the difference between MS and AU after you view dozens/hundreds of coins.
May I ask what your coin was graded at? And maybe another off question —- do Morgan’s from different years from different mints grade differently? I have decided to take some time to look at many more examples. I also am going to remove my 20 coins from the tubes and take a good look at all of them.
Thank you for answering. You pointed out some things that I’ll be looking for.
Betty would never have wanted you to be so confused about these coins. If she were here, she'd tell you to sell them and use the money to buy something that you are less confused about.
Can you just take pictures of the rest of the coins? Just set them out on a towel or something.
All this speculation is needless and would so simply be avoided with a few decent pictures. Trying to judge these based on a single photo is an act in futility. None of us can really help with the limited information we've been given.
If I had to guess, which is all I can do at this point, I'd say that someone put together a roll of "sliders" and sold them as "BU" coins. This is often seen on ebay when less scrupulous people sell "CH/GEM BU" rolls and particularly involving "slightly better date" coins like these. In other words, a scam may have occurred.
@Goldengirl13 said:
May I ask what your coin was graded at? And maybe another off question —- do Morgan’s from different years from different mints grade differently? I have decided to take some time to look at many more examples. I also am going to remove my 20 coins from the tubes and take a good look at all of them.
Thank you for answering. You pointed out some things that I’ll be looking for.
@Goldengirl13 said:
It certainly is difficult to put a grade on my coin after looking and looking at the grading examples. Some that were graded 65 looked like mine. To be truthful the coins I own look better than all the photos of circulated coins online. I even printed out blowups of grades plus my own and compared.
If you would point out the areas of the coin I posted that you feel show circulated. On the photo on the PCGS uncirculated there seems to be the same issue in the areas that I judged as “wear” but they said it was still uncirculated. Very confusing.
If I’m wasting everybody’s time you don’t need to answer.
Don't confuse strike differences with wear. You also need to look at both sides. Maybe it's the photo, but your coin looks circulated.
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Please open the tube and look at all the coins and take pics of what you think are the best looking. Then post pics.
Is that a grade??? Lightly circulated? (HaHa). Anyway what makes you say that? What about this coin indicates it’s been circulated? I know I’m asking questions of people who know a great deal about coins but as I’ve said I am not looking for the value here I’m just very interested in knowing about these coins and the grading categories.
There is wear on the high points of the coin.
Look at the Photograde pictures online. You can also buy or access grading guides online that will explain it.
Light circulation can be difficult to detect when you’re starting out. I recommend you google PCGS CoinFacts, which will get you to a very information rich website. Scroll to the heading that says “Dollars” and click on Morgan dollars. Near the top of the page will be a group of blue icons; you’ll want to click on the camera icon labeled “Photograde.”
The Photograde page has representative pictures of Morgan dollars in every grade, and you can go back and forth comparing various grades in detail. Uncirculated grades run from MS60-MS69. Circulated grades start at AU58 (the most lightly circulated) and go down from there, though the first grade that actually looks circulated will probably be AU55.
It certainly is difficult to put a grade on my coin after looking and looking at the grading examples. Some that were graded 65 looked like mine. To be truthful the coins I own look better than all the photos of circulated coins online. I even printed out blowups of grades plus my own and compared.
If you would point out the areas of the coin I posted that you feel show circulated. On the photo on the PCGS uncirculated there seems to be the same issue in the areas that I judged as “wear” but they said it was still uncirculated. Very confusing.
If I’m wasting everybody’s time you don’t need to answer.
In your photo, I see apparent rub on the high points of Liberty’s hair and the high points of her cap.
You really should post additional pictures of more of your coins if you really are seeking accurate feedback. You can look at hundreds of pictures. It is not the same as seeing hundreds or thousands of coins in person. A thing a great many people on here have done.
Fact is, most people who show up here are not looking for real advice. They just want to be told they are right about conclusions they have all ready come to. James
P.S. the breaks in luster and wear points are quite apparent even in picture form on the coin posted
Here is probably the best close-up large photo of 1 of my uncirculated coins. Look at the hair detail, it is not smooth, and the top leaf in the cap. See the veins breaking out of the thicker vertical center line. Look at the pin holes in the cotton blossoms. And just as important, the luster should look like just minted without breaks. It will take a while but you will eventually see the difference between MS and AU after you view dozens/hundreds of coins.
May I ask what your coin was graded at? And maybe another off question —- do Morgan’s from different years from different mints grade differently? I have decided to take some time to look at many more examples. I also am going to remove my 20 coins from the tubes and take a good look at all of them.
Thank you for answering. You pointed out some things that I’ll be looking for.
Betty would never have wanted you to be so confused about these coins. If she were here, she'd tell you to sell them and use the money to buy something that you are less confused about.
Can you just take pictures of the rest of the coins? Just set them out on a towel or something.
All this speculation is needless and would so simply be avoided with a few decent pictures. Trying to judge these based on a single photo is an act in futility. None of us can really help with the limited information we've been given.
If I had to guess, which is all I can do at this point, I'd say that someone put together a roll of "sliders" and sold them as "BU" coins. This is often seen on ebay when less scrupulous people sell "CH/GEM BU" rolls and particularly involving "slightly better date" coins like these. In other words, a scam may have occurred.
Collector, occasional seller
What a novel idea.
Don't confuse strike differences with wear. You also need to look at both sides. Maybe it's the photo, but your coin looks circulated.