1880-S MS64 old green PCGS holder
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I saw this in the wild today. The cert lookup puts a value of $115.
Help me learn, the hair seems to be very detailed but I see problems on the cheek, a finger print on the reverse and the eagles chest looks bad.
What is you guys opinions 
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I'm not sure what the question is. I think it is okay as a 64 but not exceptional. I'd like it better as a 63 but I'm fairly conservative.
Thanks, I guess I am asking two things.
1) how do you like the price at $99.99 with the pcgs guide at $115
2) what are your opinions on the coin itself. I know my pictures weren't great
Im not considering buying it, I just spotted it. Didn't see a grader till I flipped it and realized it was an older pcgs label. General curiosity
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With CDN bid 77 CPG 105
Looks like a decent deal at 100. It has nice luster and strike.
Typical looking 64. Kind of middle of the road coin and very common. Nice strike with good luster, but the fingerprint says no for me.
They probably won't have too much trouble selling it at $99.99 these days. The reverse fingerprint hurts a bit but it looks like a decent 64 to me.
I like the frosty look, I would buy it for $100 any day.
It looks appropriate for a 64 grade and the price is reasonable for a shop/dealer (adding in a little for the older holder premium). You could do better for the grade (and even pay a bit less) if you are patient since this is a common date and grade combo.
The price is fair (though not just because it’s below the price guide price, which is often unrealistically high). But I don’t think there’s much upside and the coin is a mediocre looking example of an extremely common issue.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
To me, that coin says “if you like it, it’s a fine price”
Not a steal, not a ripoff. Appropriate, if you like the look.
Still unclear why you’re asking about this. If you’re fishing for a response to satisfy your curiosity regarding the fingerprints , I’ll volunteer to say I don’t like them. However, they probably don’t affect the grade and they may be easily “conserved”. More trouble than it’s worth though.
Decent coin and a more decent 2nd Gen ( 2 piece) holder very collectible. Has a band around the slab. If the band is tight and no cracks you got a good deal.
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“Im not considering buying it, I just spotted it.”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Anyone else seeing $99.22
and thinking that's a different price look.
After conservation it's not going to be a 65, but it's a nice package where it sits. Priced accordingly.
I agree with Mark it’s a mediocre coin and, as such, best to reserve your cash for a better example.
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Nice 1880 s dollars are easy to find. MS 65 are not that much more expensive, so I would hold out for a nice pcgs 65, one that checks all the boxes including no fingerprints. I don't collect old holders so I don't know to what extent the ogh changes the value.
Thanks for the opinions on the coin and it's price. It's interesting how much of a swing that fingerprint adds.
After reading all this I kind of want to hunt down an MS65 version at a reasonable price. I think the only other graded Morgan I own is an 1896 MS62 from NGC.
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I myself like that style of old PCGS holders. I'd give $100 for it.
Even in that holder you are going to get beat up on future appreciation. Like the kid in the movies said. "There's too many Shane".
There are also a ton of 65s in that holder.
A local dealer had a group of Morgan MS64-66 fatty and old PCGS holders come in last week, of which I bought the better ones; he wanted too much for some of them imo, but probably a no problem Morgan 64 fatty is worth more than that one.
Solid 64, IMHO.