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1880-S MS64 old green PCGS holder

I saw this in the wild today. The cert lookup puts a value of $115.
Help me learn, the hair seems to be very detailed but I see problems on the cheek, a finger print on the reverse and the eagles chest looks bad.
What is you guys opinions

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure what the question is. I think it is okay as a 64 but not exceptional. I'd like it better as a 63 but I'm fairly conservative.

  • RiveraFamilyCollectRiveraFamilyCollect Posts: 709 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, I guess I am asking two things.
    1) how do you like the price at $99.99 with the pcgs guide at $115

    2) what are your opinions on the coin itself. I know my pictures weren't great

    Im not considering buying it, I just spotted it. Didn't see a grader till I flipped it and realized it was an older pcgs label. General curiosity

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2025 6:35PM

    With CDN bid 77 CPG 105

    Looks like a decent deal at 100. It has nice luster and strike.

    Coins & Currency
  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Typical looking 64. Kind of middle of the road coin and very common. Nice strike with good luster, but the fingerprint says no for me.

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They probably won't have too much trouble selling it at $99.99 these days. The reverse fingerprint hurts a bit but it looks like a decent 64 to me.

  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the frosty look, I would buy it for $100 any day.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2025 10:05PM

    It looks appropriate for a 64 grade and the price is reasonable for a shop/dealer (adding in a little for the older holder premium). You could do better for the grade (and even pay a bit less) if you are patient since this is a common date and grade combo.

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me, that coin says “if you like it, it’s a fine price”
    Not a steal, not a ripoff. Appropriate, if you like the look.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still unclear why you’re asking about this. If you’re fishing for a response to satisfy your curiosity regarding the fingerprints , I’ll volunteer to say I don’t like them. However, they probably don’t affect the grade and they may be easily “conserved”. More trouble than it’s worth though.

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Decent coin and a more decent 2nd Gen ( 2 piece) holder very collectible. Has a band around the slab. If the band is tight and no cracks you got a good deal.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JimTyler said:
    Decent coin and a more decent 2nd Gen ( 2 piece) holder very collectible. Has a band around the slab. If the band is tight and no cracks you got a good deal.

    RiveraFamilyCollect Posts: 668 ✭✭✭✭ March 1, 2025 7:22PM

    “Im not considering buying it, I just spotted it.”

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2025 6:48AM

    Anyone else seeing $99.22 ;) and thinking that's a different price look.
    After conservation it's not going to be a 65, but it's a nice package where it sits. Priced accordingly.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Mark it’s a mediocre coin and, as such, best to reserve your cash for a better example.

    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • tyler267tyler267 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice 1880 s dollars are easy to find. MS 65 are not that much more expensive, so I would hold out for a nice pcgs 65, one that checks all the boxes including no fingerprints. I don't collect old holders so I don't know to what extent the ogh changes the value.

  • RiveraFamilyCollectRiveraFamilyCollect Posts: 709 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2025 8:22PM

    Thanks for the opinions on the coin and it's price. It's interesting how much of a swing that fingerprint adds.

    After reading all this I kind of want to hunt down an MS65 version at a reasonable price. I think the only other graded Morgan I own is an 1896 MS62 from NGC.

  • RiveraFamilyCollectRiveraFamilyCollect Posts: 709 ✭✭✭✭


  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I myself like that style of old PCGS holders. I'd give $100 for it.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even in that holder you are going to get beat up on future appreciation. Like the kid in the movies said. "There's too many Shane".

    There are also a ton of 65s in that holder.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A local dealer had a group of Morgan MS64-66 fatty and old PCGS holders come in last week, of which I bought the better ones; he wanted too much for some of them imo, but probably a no problem Morgan 64 fatty is worth more than that one.

  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Solid 64, IMHO.

    Vplite99

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