New counterfeit reported by NCG -- 1912-S Lincoln

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Old_Collector
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While it wouldn't fool anyone here, this is probably going to be a problem on EBay raw, as nobody would make just one non-key that will not get into a slab. NGC put out an article today with detailed pictures showing the date and mint, which are way off. Interesting that it is 100% copper so has a color difference.

https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/13728/counterfeit-detection-1912-s-cent/?utm_source=NGC&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=25_NGC_Proof_0218

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NGC

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  • tincup
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    Yeah, that one will probable fool a few on ebay.

    ----- kj
  • 291fifth
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    @tincup said:
    Yeah, that one will probable fool a few on ebay.

    More than a few, I'm afraid. :(

    All glory is fleeting.
  • coinbuf
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    That is a very deceptive counterfeit.

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  • johnny9434
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    😪

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Does PCGS ever publish articles about the counterfeit coins they encounter? If they don't, I wish they would.

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  • Yeshua
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    That is a really good counterfeit. A lot of people could lose money with that being posted on ebay. Glad to have seen this post.

  • BuffaloIronTail
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    A local coin dealer who I used to "hang out" at was putting together a set of Lincoln Cents for a customer. I watched as his assistant gathered the coins for the album.

    The 1911-S Cent looked off to me. I asked to see it, and sure enough it was altered. Pretty good job on the "11" in the date, with no tooling or signs of alteration.

    However, the "S" looked like the wrong style, so I looked at the shoulder and lo and behold, there was a V.D.B. there! The coin was probably altered from a 1944-S.

    We all know that Brenner's initials were left off the coin until they were restored in 1918 by George Morgan.

    This just confirms the fact any coin can be altered.

    Pete

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  • lermish
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    @Yeshua said:
    That is a really good counterfeit. A lot of people could lose money with that being posted on ebay. Glad to have seen this post.

    The buyer just paid what this one was worth, that's fair right? Something is worth what someone will pay for it, regardless if that is a fair or reasonable price or the item is being misrepresented?

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  • TPring
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    edited February 18, 2025 1:56PM
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    Not even in red.

    Even has the tell-tale reverse [bump on left wheat] of other counterfeits.

  • World67
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    MM is obviously wrong.

  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    date looks way off to me

  • EarlyUS
    EarlyUS Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
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    Up close, it's pretty clearly a copy. However, where a coin like that is particularly dangerous is sitting in an album where it can easily elude careful inspection.

    James at EarlyUS.com

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  • Greenstang
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    Clearly a counterfeit with the die chip on the left wheat stalk.
    This is a known marker for different years of early wheaties.

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