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Does Ebay not have any liability if someone reports a coin as fake and they do nothing to prevent its sale? I can understand if the coin does not get reported, but if it does they are facilitating the transfer of counterfeit legal tender.
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@relicsncoins said:
Does Ebay not have any liability if someone reports a coin as fake and they do nothing to prevent its sale? I can understand if the coin does not get reported, but if it does they are facilitating the transfer of counterfeit legal tender.
When eBay starts pulling listings based on random people making reports, I'm going to rebel. If you’re not a licensed coin authenticator, why should eBay take your word for it?
I suppose you also want to sue every newspaper that ever allowed an ad for a car that turned out to be a lemon.
I think we can also get the post office shut down for every fake coin they ever delivered. Maybe we should let them open every package to check for counterfeits. Or there could be a special higher rate for shipping coins to pay for the inspection.
@MsMorrisine said:
start naming pcgs graders who have a license
Exactly the point. How would eBay know who to believe?
And if you make the venue liable, say goodbye to the BST, IG, FB and coin club auctions.
It's a problem but without the easy solutions people think exist.
If eBay starts pulling auctions based on every report, the people knowingly seeking fakes can just post pictures of real coins and ship fakes. You are left going after eBay because there is no way for anyone to go after a Turkish seller shipping out of Kazakhstan using a billing address in China.
Much appreciation for posting these photos of a CF. Not only for CF awareness, but for viewing a photo of a real CF. Keep these fake Peace dollars coming, especially the TPG’s. Hopefully viewing these fakes will help educate us and keep us from buying a CF. I think this one is a poor CF, most specifically, the reverse. I agree with @Mr_Spud on the reverse.The coin appears to be a magician’s coin. Flip her over and upon closer examination she is surely a fake. No loupe requited!
I don't want you to think I'm hijacking @FlyingAl thread. I got his permission first.
With the exception of the lines around the perimeter of the rim, (as a magician’s coin) the dollar posted by the OP reminds me of this one I have. Both coins look very similar to me.
I'm not an expert but at first glance, it sure could fool someone. After comparing it to several other real peace dollars I have, the date and obverse rays all look noticeably bolder. The reeded edge looks just about perfect. The coin is a little bit lighter, 20 grams. The coin isn't metal. A magnet will "not" stick to it. It looks like it might be a cast coin. I think those are casting bubbles and chips.
Other then that, it sure looks, sound and feels like a real Peace Dollar.
In your opinions, do you think this is an intended counterfeit or some kind of gift shop souvenir coin? Also, what do you think it's made of?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
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Hello xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Thanks again for reporting the listing(s) you found.
What happened:
We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent.
If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision.
Your reference ID:
2-189xxxxxxxxx
Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:
Item: 205216128493 1921 Peace Silver Dollar $1 US Silver Coin
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Thanks,
eBay
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Well... if ebay says all is good.....!
reported!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/205216128493
That line around the perimeter on the reverse reminds me of one of those magician coins.
Mr_Spud
Does Ebay not have any liability if someone reports a coin as fake and they do nothing to prevent its sale? I can understand if the coin does not get reported, but if it does they are facilitating the transfer of counterfeit legal tender.
But 100% feedback!
When eBay starts pulling listings based on random people making reports, I'm going to rebel. If you’re not a licensed coin authenticator, why should eBay take your word for it?
I suppose you also want to sue every newspaper that ever allowed an ad for a car that turned out to be a lemon.
I think we can also get the post office shut down for every fake coin they ever delivered. Maybe we should let them open every package to check for counterfeits. Or there could be a special higher rate for shipping coins to pay for the inspection.
start naming pcgs graders who have a license
keep reporting people!
Exactly the point. How would eBay know who to believe?
And if you make the venue liable, say goodbye to the BST, IG, FB and coin club auctions.
It's a problem but without the easy solutions people think exist.
If eBay starts pulling auctions based on every report, the people knowingly seeking fakes can just post pictures of real coins and ship fakes. You are left going after eBay because there is no way for anyone to go after a Turkish seller shipping out of Kazakhstan using a billing address in China.
Oh well only 3 remaining. LOL SMH!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
That same reverse die has been around for a while. It has a very fat (spread out) "O" of ONE. Also the rays below ONE are unusually wide.
It’s also just straight up missing some rays.
Coin Photographer.
You don't feel it could be an undiscovered reverse of '22 variety ?
No.
Coin Photographer.
We looked everywhere
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if we get together, we can do it
I reported it also. I guess if they received enough reports, they will take it down.
Much appreciation for posting these photos of a CF. Not only for CF awareness, but for viewing a photo of a real CF. Keep these fake Peace dollars coming, especially the TPG’s. Hopefully viewing these fakes will help educate us and keep us from buying a CF. I think this one is a poor CF, most specifically, the reverse. I agree with @Mr_Spud on the reverse.The coin appears to be a magician’s coin. Flip her over and upon closer examination she is surely a fake. No loupe requited!
I don't want you to think I'm hijacking @FlyingAl thread. I got his permission first.
With the exception of the lines around the perimeter of the rim, (as a magician’s coin) the dollar posted by the OP reminds me of this one I have. Both coins look very similar to me.
I'm not an expert but at first glance, it sure could fool someone. After comparing it to several other real peace dollars I have, the date and obverse rays all look noticeably bolder. The reeded edge looks just about perfect. The coin is a little bit lighter, 20 grams. The coin isn't metal. A magnet will "not" stick to it. It looks like it might be a cast coin. I think those are casting bubbles and chips.
Other then that, it sure looks, sound and feels like a real Peace Dollar.
In your opinions, do you think this is an intended counterfeit or some kind of gift shop souvenir coin? Also, what do you think it's made of?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
doesn't look like a magician's coin
i don't see a well defined line and they thump more than ring
It's a ring, not a thump. It's not hollow, it's solid. It sure feels real but only 20grams.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )