New EBay purchase.
SanctionII
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In a Gen 3.0 holder.
Very frosty PF67 half dollar.
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Soooo, you going to crack it and do your magic and submit or submit for reconsideration?
WS
WS
Too early to say. After I receive the coin and view it in hand I will decide if I should leave it as is, or resubmit the coin (raw, or slabbed).
Looks like a cam or dcam slabbed before PCGS recognized cam/dcam.
Nice coin. By any chance is that with a fbl?
Do any services recognize FBL on proof halves?
I hope the coin shows good frost in hand. Lighting and photo angles can change the whiteness of devices.
No, it is expected on proof coins so there is no point in designating it, same for FB on Mercs and FS on Jeffersons.
Collector, occasional seller
FBL is a designation regarding strike quality. Since all proof coins are fully struck (or should be), then ALL proof coins will be FBL.
Dwayne F. Sessom
Ebay ID: V-Nickel-Coins
It looks fully frosted but still a "juiced" image, the coin is probably over-graded but under-designated. PR65Cam.
Does anyone know when they started designating CAM/DCAM on coins other than Morgans? and what generation holder that translated to?
@davewesen, that can be nearly impossible to determine since there's no telling when coins were encapsulated.
@Condor101 helped with his holder book, but it probably can't be narrowed down to much closer than a year. I suppose it was in the early 1990's.
A Gen 3.0 holder was produced from sometime in 1990 through sometime in 1993.
The subject coin may have been graded prior to the time (sometime in 1992 or 1993?) that PCGS began awarding CAM and DCAM designations.
Maywood is correct that the photo of the coin may be juiced, over graded and under designated.
I will give an update on the coin when I receive it next week.
Just received notice that the PF67 frosty Franklin is being delivered today.
Update to follow after I have the coin in hand.
anticipation +++++ good luck
Well.......................................,
I received the coin today and am underwhelmed (there is no Santa Claus in the hobby of kings for me today).
Maywood was correct (as he frequently is) when he said the photo of the coin is juiced. It is juiced to overstate the degree of frost.
The devices are frosted, with the reverse warranting a CAM designation. The obverse devices have frost that would not warrant a CAM designation. The fields are ok (better in hand than they look in the photos), with the obverse fields having a noticeable milk spot in the right field centered between the T and the Y and to the right of Ben's forehead; and some other miniscule milk spots. The holder has some scratches and marks on it. As far as the PF67 grade goes, I think it warrants a PF66, but since my opinion does not matter the coin shall be and is a PF67.
Mehhhhh............
Kevin, when I first opened the thread and saw a 1961 I thought you had scored an undesignated DDR and was all set to award a "You Suck" till I looked at the images. That's one of two coins I look for at eBay, the other is a wrongly designated 1956 T1 Cam/DCam. I thought I found the latter in a 68DC a few years ago, got excited and studied the sub-par pictures for about half an hour. It was a no-no.
I got two picks on the way... one is bound to disappoint.
Careful study and patience eliminates Pareidolia.
Had a potential big 8TF go poof as I was looking.... that one will haunt me.
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Due to the prominent white spot obv - C coin.
Well, hopefully the price not too dear. I bought a couple of halves that looked great in the pictures also, and then did not appear to be the same coin in hand. Caveat emptor!
Well, just Love coins, period.
All the imperfections are clearly seen on the sellers photo, so I am confused
Win some, lose some.
Collector, occasional seller
The coin is an attractive, frosted Proof half dollar. The purchase price is modest. I gambled that the coin in hand had frost at the level shown in the juiced EBay photo; and that the flaws showing on the coin (excluding the milk spot) were either on the holder (some were) or were on the coin (but removable).
Had the coin turned out to be in reality as I had hoped, it would be a very good purchase.
Even though in hand the coin looks as I described in above in my reply of 12-16-2024 at 2:29 p.m. it remains an attractive coin (better than a C coin [unless one's personal opinion is that a milk spot equates to a C coin]).
Some of the modern proof and SMS (raw and slabbed) coins look unattractive for various reasons (including haze and toning). Some ugly coins I have purchased have, after being conserved (including dipped) turn out to be very attractive.