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Incredible! US Mint sells 2024 Flowing Hair Dies and First Strike for $440,000!!!

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  • ByersByers Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @counterbrockage said:
    The uncancelled Costa Rica Proof Obverse Die is such an incredible find. Someone either needs to put that in a museum, or build a museum just for it. Either way, it will be exciting to see where it ends up next.

    And hi all, I am Greg Bennick: long time error / counterstamp collector and someone who has never really been on this chat board before. Excited to be involved.

    Welcome, Greg! Glad you found your way here. It’s a great forum.

    The unique Costa Rica NGC Uncancelled Proof 1897 2 Colones Obv Die is a world class rarity and a numismatic discovery:


    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • ByersByers Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For those of you who don’t know Greg Bennick, he is a well known error collector/ dealer and a Consultant to Mint Error News. Here is his bio:


    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • Thanks Mike! I appreciate the introduction. Happy to contribute however I can to the forum.

    Board member: CONECA and TAMS
    Instagram: @minterrors

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I used to have an Olympic Die and it sure looks like the cross was milled.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 21, 2024 12:03PM

    @davewesen said:
    I used to have an Olympic Die and it sure looks like the cross was milled.

    The Olympic Dollar dies were used for restrikes but ran into legal issues due to copyright on the Olympics logo. There are some photos from the mint below.

    Dan did some restrikes with Half Eagle dies that didn't have logo or copyright issues.

    I'm looking forward to seeing if these dies will be used for restrikes!



  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @davewesen said:
    I used to have an Olympic Die and it sure looks like the cross was milled.

    The "X" cancel on most early US Mint dies appears to have been applied with a chisel and hammer.
    The "X" cancel on the 1995-1996 Olympic dies was made with a grinding wheel.
    The "X" cancel on the 2024 Flowing Hair was applied via laser.

    It's nice to see the evolution of cancellation marks.

    Given that the Mint is using lasers now, they can even add additional information such as date of cancellation, similar to stamp cancellation marks.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    The "X" cancel on most early US Mint dies appears to have been applied with a chisel and hammer.
    The "X" cancel on the 1995-1996 Olympic dies was made with a grinding wheel.
    The "X" cancel on the 2024 Flowing Hair was applied via laser.


    Great information @dcarr …nice having a forum member who owns a commercial 3 phase electric motor coin press. 😊

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it is also interesting that the 2024 flowing hair dies themselves, were the first US Mint dies that were laser engraved. I am guessing all future dies will be done this way?

  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldminers said:
    I think it is also interesting that the 2024 flowing hair dies themselves, were the first US Mint dies that were laser engraved. I am guessing all future dies will be done this way?

    I hope so, the state quarter dies were a disappointment. I ended up scraping the ones I had during a move.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldminers said:

    I hope so, the state quarter dies were a disappointment. I ended up scraping the ones I had during a move.


    I agree. I bought a few of the Maryland state quarter dies and the entire design was surface ground down to a machined surface. The single coin that came with each die was quite nice though.

  • I love this post so much - and sorry @Mr Lindy for not writing back sooner! As a new member to the boards its not yet in my mental norm to be checking for messages. But I am glad I saw this one.

    I will attach a photo of the cent with imbedded washer so you can have a closer look. I love the idea that it might be a brockage....but the idea of cracking it out and separating them is for some reason scary! I like them bonded, but you're right that theres no better or worse between bonded and mated, other than maybe personal preference. I love the playing with them aspect you described. Its very interactive. I like that this one is bonded because its very unusual to see the two pieces as one like this, even if it is entombed in a plastic coffin.

    I will also upload something else from my collection. A Canadian cent with a bonded Costa Rica planchet within it. I love dramatic, weird, and exciting errors. Glad to be here to share (thanks to @Byers for connecting me!)

    Thanks for the comment! I hope the photos come through.

    Greg



    @Mr Lindy said:
    Pretty Penny handle image you have there counterbrockage ! 1968S Bonded pair ? I always wondered if the holey bonded blank was actually a struck coin ? San Fran made some thought provoking errors half century ago.
    If you crack it out & drop in on a safe surface a few dozen or hundred times they may separate and reveal a brockage. not a blank. As I have done this the sound changes as they begin to separate, just saying from experience, but then its no longer bonded. What's better ? Bonded or mated ?

    Mated pairs are always most fun to mate and separate. You lose that interactive option when errors get entombed.

    This is my favorite informative forum, truly numismatic big tent, enjoy the ride !

    Lindy

    @counterbrockage said:
    The uncancelled Costa Rica Proof Obverse Die is such an incredible find. Someone either needs to put that in a museum, or build a museum just for it. Either way, it will be exciting to see where it ends up next.

    And hi all, I am Greg Bennick: long time error / counterstamp collector and someone who has never really been on this chat board before. Excited to be involved.

    Board member: CONECA and TAMS
    Instagram: @minterrors

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