Nightmare, now Dream scenario
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Nightmare scenario for Yankee fans if both they and Mets reach Series.
If that occurs its lose lose , for Yanks and win win for Mets
Yanks win they are supposed to and fuels the Mets fans hatred fire so they are happy.
Mets win and their fans will go on about to the end of time.
Hardly seems fair, but its merely a musing on my part as I'm an LA fan living in AZ, originally from NYC Metro
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I hate New York so I want Cleveland vs The Dodgers
I would like to see Ohtani win a ring
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
It would fun to see Cleveland win… they lost a tough WS to the Cubs in 2016.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
If a Subway series comes to pass there should be enough interest outside of NYC. There are many Yankee haters across the USA.
What I have noticed is all the teams that are left have multiple serious flaws. One if them will win of course, but none are even close to being a great team.
Although if the Mets win their fans will insist they are a dynasty, after all they still talk that way about there 1 and done 1986 championship.
MLB at Team level has become nothing more than mediocraty from top to bottom
Subway Series would be cool if persistently disrupted by weather cancellations, we could look forward to Game 7 around the same time as the NBA All-Star Game.*
*See title above
Enjoy the go.
My NY wife is a yankees fan, her fam is split and they all want a subway series again.
If it is a subway series, the problem is that none of the players would survive a trip in a New York City subway.
Sadly its headed Back to the 60s-80s in that respect. But please let's not get political
I used to ride BART in the SF Bay Area.
I have not done so in years as I do not want to deal with the problems (many and varied) that frequently are present in/on the trains and stations.
If it happens will be interesting to see the viewer ratings compared to the 2000 Subway series matchup. Yanks won 4-1.
Less interest in the Sport especially due to attrition and apathy the last quarter century will yield lower viewership including in NY market.
A networks dream remains Dodgers-Yankees. Number 1 and 2 national markets
The Big problem this year was the AL. Basically everyone from the AL Central got into the playoffs because the White Sox were so god awful. KC and Detroit would not have made the playoffs in the NL or even a different AL division.
Because of that advantage some of the better teams were sitting at home and when you have the 3 and 5 game series anything can happen
Theres a couple likable players left in this playoffs, but they may not have been able to find a more dislikable group of teams for the final 4 if they tried
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Replace Cleveland with the Cheatstro's and there you go
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
As expected when you have a poster with over 3,000 posts in about a year you get an incredible amount of nonsense.
Name some of the better teams in the AL who were sitting at home? And let’s remember KC destroyed Baltimore in 2 games and Detroit did the same with Houston.
Who does that leave who didn’t get in ….. Seattle? 😂
He’s a wannabe Dodgers fan who doesn’t understand baseball economics.
Well Dodgers up 2-1 after an 8-0 whoopin' - big game tomorrow (tonight) for the mets.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Anyone that knows baseball knows that anything can happen in a 3 game series
The Royals finished 86-76 and were 12-1 against the White Sox. Thats not a playoff team if the White Sox dont lose every game but 1 to them
They were 74-75 against the rest of the league
Tigers were also 86-76 and 10-3 against the White Sox. They were 76-73 against the rest of the league. They at least had a winning record against everyone else.
The AL Central playoff teams were 30-9 against the White Sox who are the worst team in MLB history unless you want to go back to the 1890s with the Spiders. Cleveland was the only team that didnt really benefit since they were winning the division anyways
The White Sox absolutely put teams in the playoffs that shouldnt have been there
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Seattle was not a good team either. But as was mentioned by others already in this thread there are no really good teams in MLB. Those whiners who desire parity or salary cap in MLB that will mean even worse than a mediocre sport it will be downright excrement level.
Remember folks David vs Goliath is can be both surprising and exciting, Goliath vs Goliath is exciting, David vs David is a middling yawn fest that no true fan wants to see!
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Would like to see a Dodger Yankee series. Nice classic pair of teams. They have met 11 times in MLB history the most for any matchup. Haven't met since 1981 so it would be a nice call back.
Two classic teams and the two best players in the game meeting. I have no interest in seeing the Indians vs the Mets.
Congrats to the Royals for destroying the White Sox. I wonder why other teams couldn’t take advantage like that. Just goes to show the white Sox should have gone 12-150 if every team they played was as good as KC.
Why does everyone who thinks they know baseball always say anything can happen in a 3 game series? Anything can also happen in a 7, 15, 39, or 173 game series.
Bookies sure aren't giving the Mets or Guardians much love at this point.
Odds to won the World Series:
New York Yankees
+110
Los Angeles Dodgers
+120
New York Mets
+700
Cleveland Guardians
+1500
Only way Yanks win is if judge Soto and G are all hot at same time. So it's plausible
Because other teams didnt get to play them 13 times. Every team is guaranteed basically 60 wins and 60 loses, somehow the White Sox the WORST TEAM IN MLB HISTORY won 41 games.
Because 3 game series are by far the most unpredictable thing in baseball and anyone that knows the sport knows that.
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Just look at Cleveland's lineup. They basically have 2 hitters. Unfortunately the AL has turned into a joke with the amount of teams not even trying to win.
At this point Dodgers Yankees are the ones that deserve it and I dislike them both. Just go ahead and sim the rest of the season and lets get to next year already
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Sorry I didn’t make the math clear for you to understand.
Why didn’t all the other teams beat the white Sox 92.3 % of the time like the royals did? Wouldn’t that have helped their chances?
Again…. what better teams were you talking about in the AL didn’t make the playoffs?
A team usually wins 1 out of a 3 game series and other teams didnt get to play them 13 times. The more you play the more you win especially for divisional teams where the schedule has you playing at the end of the year when one team has already given up.
No team n MLB had fewer than 61 wins other than the White Sox who had 41. They had a .253 winning percentage and were the worst team in history finishing 51.5 games out of first place to a team that won 92 games. The Blue Jays and the Angels combined finished 45.5 games out of first place in their divisions in the AL and that still doesnt match the White Sox
The Royals were 6-0 against them after the all star break. The playoffs look very different if the White Sox are in the AL West or East
The AL Central teams greatly benefited from playing the worst team in history 13 times
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It is possible it makes a difference. I don't think it is as big as you are making it out to be though. It's not quite as big when the divisions had more unbalanced schedules and there was no inter-league plays.
Seattle and Boston were really the only teams that had a beef per your argument...but they each played the White Sox seven times themselves.
Seattle was closest to making the playoffs and they also had two putrid teams in their division(ANA and OAK) as opposed to just one that KC and Cle had.
The Tribe snipes a W in the 10th!!!
This aged well.
Red Sox were 4-3 against the White Sox this year so they didn’t really take advantage of playing them 7 times. So basebal21 can’t make the argument that Boston was better than KC or Detroit.
Mariners were 6-1 against the white Sox so they did take advantage but like swell said they had two putrid teams in their division instead of one. And KC went 3-3 against Seattle so I’m not buying that the M’s were any better than the royals.
So basebal21 said there were better teams that got left out of the AL playoffs than KC and Detroit. Still waiting for him to name one, most likely a couple phantom teams that exist only in his mind.
Detroit was the hottest team in the AL since the ASB and Cleveland only has 2 hitters. I’ve seen more coherent thought on bumper stickers.
I think it is getting underplayed at how historically bad they were. Even the As trying to tank with a payroll less than mulpitle guys in the league single season salary still won over 60 games. The Rockies still won over 60 games with the Dodgers and SD in their division.. I'm not a big Red Sox fan either but KC or even the Tigers dont make the playoffs in other divisions much less the other league. When the Royals are below .500 against the rest of the league but get 12 wins off the White Sox how would the White Sox not be responsible for putting some teams in the playoffs?
The White Sox were basically eliminated from the playoffs by the all star break. Seattle, Red Sox, Rangers and Rays all have legitimate chances and at least a couple would have approached the deadline differently with a couple more early wins.
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No, because the Red Sox played the White Sox seven times too and they finished five games behind the Royals.
Seattle played the White Sox seven times, and Oakland and Anaheim were putrid two. Sure, the white sox were worse, but there are two putrid teams so that balances that out. Texas was also below .500 and Houston was the worst division winner. So Seattle has no beef at all.
Like I said, it can make a difference, but you're talking a five game difference in the standings and that is a lot.
If Boston were like Seattle and finished just a game out, then I would agree they had a beef since they had Bal and NY in their division and no putrid teams. But they were five games behind. Time to turn the page at that point.
The Nightmare Scenario would have been a non-competitive ALCS. Thank you Noel and Fry for saving your audience.
Enjoy the go.
One more thing about the royals schedule basebal21 hasn’t mentioned.
I mentioned this when it happened the first time…. they played 4 first place teams consecutively. I’m going completely from memory.. I can look this up tonight but I think it was Yankees, guardians, dodgers, mariners(yes they were in first place)Then the final month of the season again with like 4 first place teams. It was brutal, their non divisional schedule.
In fact if there are any stats showing how tough mlb teams schedules were I’m guessing the royals had one of the toughest even with the white Sox in the division.
Here it is…. then it happened again in the final month of the season.
My preferred sports are the NFL and the NBA.
However, it is getting to the time of the year where I will actually tune into a baseball game. Usually I tune into the World Series after one team wins 3 games (thus the next game is possibly the last game of the MLB season), but only after the 7th inning.
Watching the last two (or one) innings in the potentially deciding game of the World Series is now the only time in the entire MLB season that I have any interest in the sport.
Back when MLB had four divisions (two per league) and only the four division winners qualified for the playoffs, I paid more attention to the playoffs and watched the NLCS, ALCS and World Series. With the MLB playoffs expanding, the appeal of the playoffs has worn off for me.
Yankees v. Dodgers would likely generate the most viewership, which I assume MLB would welcome.
Is anyone else of the Sports Forum apathetic about baseball? If so, why? For me I grew up in Denver in the mid 1950's to the mid 1970's, at a time when MLB was not present. Baseball was not a significant part of my childhood experience and it never caught my attention.
They played them 7 but the Royals played them 13 and finished 5 ahead by going 12-1 against them. If you put the White Sox in the AL East Boston makes the playoffs and the Royals finish below or right at /500. If you put them in the AL West Seattle makes it over the Royals and Texas might have made it over Detroit as well. The White Sox are why the Royals made the playoffs over some of the other teams. Theres a strong argument for the reason the Tigers did as well.
Even with the As and Angels being really bad, each of them still won 20 more games than the White Sox did. 20 games is essentially a full month.
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pretty sure there was a dodger pitcher out there throwing a wiffle ball last night
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
At this point I suggest writing a letter to the commissioner.
He should be commissioner. He’s got my vote.
If it would do any bit of good I would but itd be a waste of time. Reinsdorf should be forced to sell the team
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If basebal21 becomes commissioner who is going to be our Cliff Clavin around here?
3 total wins from NY Hell.
I'd watch LA vs NYY. if it happens, might very well score the best series ratings in the last dozen or more years. Seems like a positive thing from a high level.
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Cleveland wasnt really competitive and Dodgers take it. Network executives and the commissioners office are doing back flips theyre so happy at what the ratings that will come.
Was east to see coming once the ALCS and NLCS started
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Yep! NYY vs LAD is the marquee Matchup. 1st and 2nd largest markets. Probably the only MLB combination that can still spike Series ratings.
First series in many years I will watch.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Be going up against NFL and college FB on certain days. Looking forward to seeing the overall ratings for the series.
I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t give a damn about any tv ratings but will still be watching just because I like baseball. 🤔
Had to watch wifey buy a Yankees shirt last night for the series, guess we'll actually be watching even though she was hoping for the subway to give her brother some smacktalk since he's a Mets guy.