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OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

Does anyone have any recent or past experience with SEGS submissions? I always liked their holders.

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    Allow me to be the first to reply with “SEGS is still in business?”

    Their website is still up


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  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I personally like the PCGS gold shield holder the most.
    With that said I think the SEGS holder is really nice. I'm not sure about their grading. I have had and seen agreeable and disagreeable grading.

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  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun had submitted to them and had talked about time tables in recent (last couple yearsish)

    I like their holders too!

    It's all about what the people want...

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 30,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I always liked segs as well. No real complaints to speaks about 👍

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    Allow me to be the first to reply with “SEGS is still in business?”

    So they are or are not still in business?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2024 9:25AM

    @ajaan said:

    @airplanenut said:
    Allow me to be the first to reply with “SEGS is still in business?”

    Their website is still up

    Yes, the website is still up. I called and e-mail them last week with no response yet.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2024 11:36AM

    I wonder what their pricing is like. Maybe it is less than it's competition.
    Edit: $15 standard submission.

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NNC also still has a website: https://www.nnccoingrading.com/

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @airplanenut said:
    Allow me to be the first to reply with “SEGS is still in business?”

    So they are or are not still in business?

    I haven't a clue. My reply was part serious and part in jest... SEGS is so out of mind when I think of grading companies that it never remotely occurred to me that they could still be in business. I do see now that they have a website. What does it mean? I haven't a clue.

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  • EarlyUSEarlyUS Posts: 306 ✭✭✭

    I am considering a significant SEGS submission, actually. "Grade" for the coins are of practically no interest to me - these are simply very difficult coins to attribute.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:
    I am considering a significant SEGS submission, actually. "Grade" for the coins are of practically no interest to me - these are simply very difficult coins to attribute.

    So have you initiated any action yet?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NTC has new ownership. For whatever that’s worth?

    SEGS, I am shocked they’re still in business. Had no clue.

    Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LukeMarshall said:
    @coinsarefun had submitted to them and had talked about time tables in recent (last couple yearsish)

    I like their holders too!

    .
    Thanks, yes I do like them. At first they were slow because they needed to make sure to get some things
    correctly marked. After that it went fairly quick. I did have a small issue with email returns but also was worked out.
    I feel they are a worthy company. In my case I really wasn’t Al that concerned in the grading department because I feel
    fairly confident.
    What I really wanted was to carry the same theme through the old and new items which gave the sets some cohesiveness.
    That was the most important to me. Getting the information correct on the slab I knew would be okay because I got it straight from Ron Landis.
    My first choice has always been pcgs with NGC an almost tie when it comes to tokens and medals.
    SEGS is a great company for certain items and for the FSNC it was a no brainer.

  • EarlyUSEarlyUS Posts: 306 ✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:
    I am considering a significant SEGS submission, actually. "Grade" for the coins are of practically no interest to me - these are simply very difficult coins to attribute.

    So have you initiated any action yet?

    I will at the FUN show in January when I can physically transport the potential submission.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:

    @LukeMarshall said:
    @coinsarefun had submitted to them and had talked about time tables in recent (last couple yearsish)

    I like their holders too!

    .
    Thanks, yes I do like them. At first they were slow because they needed to make sure to get some things
    correctly marked. After that it went fairly quick. I did have a small issue with email returns but also was worked out.
    I feel they are a worthy company. In my case I really wasn’t Al that concerned in the grading department because I feel
    fairly confident.
    What I really wanted was to carry the same theme through the old and new items which gave the sets some cohesiveness.
    That was the most important to me. Getting the information correct on the slab I knew would be okay because I got it straight from Ron Landis.
    My first choice has always been pcgs with NGC an almost tie when it comes to tokens and medals.
    SEGS is a great company for certain items and for the FSNC it was a no brainer.

    How do you find general communications/customer service/feedback with them? Timely replying to phone messages and e-mails? Maybe they are just a low budget operation compared to the big three.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As far as I know, Larry Briggs is no longer involved with SEGS at all.

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    As far as I know, Larry Briggs is no longer involved with SEGS at all.

    Initially he WAS SEGS, wasn't he? A one man operation.

  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I heard Larry sold SEGS several years ago. Myself, like others, am surprised they are still in business.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:

    @messydesk said:
    As far as I know, Larry Briggs is no longer involved with SEGS at all.

    Initially he WAS SEGS, wasn't he? A one man operation.

    More or less. He ran the show, but had several people involved.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see Larry a couple times a year. Super nice guy.

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  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why would you bother? The market does not respect their grades.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 7, 2024 3:58PM

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @ProofCollection said:
    Why would you bother? The market does not respect their grades.

    Hey hey! I'm buying the slab, not the coin. Isn't that what they say? 🤣 😉

    That's fine. But eventually you or your heirs are going to have to sell it. Neither Stacks, Heritage, or GC will help you with that and any dealer will low ball the crap out of you because of the slab. So again, what is the motivation here?

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ProofCollection said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @ProofCollection said:
    Why would you bother? The market does not respect their grades.

    Hey hey! I'm buying the slab, not the coin. Isn't that what they say? 🤣 😉

    That's fine. But eventually you or your heirs are going to have to sell it.

    I'm hoping those slabs will become a major collectors item some day. 🥴 😉

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  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PTVETTER said:
    I see Larry a couple times a year. Super nice guy.

    What does that have to do with the price of ..........?

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:

    @PTVETTER said:
    I see Larry a couple times a year. Super nice guy.

    What does that have to do with the price of ..........?

    ...SEGS in China?

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kaz said:

    @RobertScotLover said:

    @PTVETTER said:
    I see Larry a couple times a year. Super nice guy.

    What does that have to do with the price of ..........?

    ...SEGS in China?

    Very funny. 🤣🤣🤣

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Last time I saw him his back still has issues.

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    from the list of active grading services above I believe there is one error
    that is IGC should be ICG

    list is.......................
    ANACS
    CACG
    IGC
    NGC
    NNC
    NTC
    PCGS
    SEGS

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 38,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2024 7:59AM

    @OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:
    I am considering a significant SEGS submission, actually. "Grade" for the coins are of practically no interest to me - these are simply very difficult coins to attribute.

    Are they good at attribution?

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:
    I am considering a significant SEGS submission, actually. "Grade" for the coins are of practically no interest to me - these are simply very difficult coins to attribute.

    Are they god at attribution?

    I think ALL TPGs think they're "God" when it comes to attribution. 🤣🤣

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 38,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2024 2:40PM

    @MWallace said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:
    I am considering a significant SEGS submission, actually. "Grade" for the coins are of practically no interest to me - these are simply very difficult coins to attribute.

    Are they god at attribution?

    I think ALL TPGs think they're "God" when it comes to attribution. 🤣🤣

    Lol. No. I think many of the second tier know they aren't good at it but they are hoping the customers don't notice.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the problems with SEGS is that they are not recognized by eBay so you would
    not be able to sell on their site unless you blacked out the grade.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Greenstang said:
    One of the problems with SEGS is that they are not recognized by eBay so you would
    not be able to sell on their site unless you blacked out the grade.

    I'm not to sure about that.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Greenstang said:
    One of the problems with SEGS is that they are not recognized by eBay so you would
    not be able to sell on their site unless you blacked out the grade.

    I'm not to sure about that.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    One will slip through occasionally but it's true.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Greenstang said:
    One of the problems with SEGS is that they are not recognized by eBay so you would
    not be able to sell on their site unless you blacked out the grade.

    I'm not to sure about that.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    One will slip through occasionally but it's true.

    Agreed.
    Many PCI coins and SEGS coin slip through with the grades shown, yet it is against eBay policy to do so and if reported I'd imagine the listings are pulled.

    Here is an interesting thread that also goes into that fact:
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1101992/cac-grading-results-from-segs-crack-outs#:~:text=Full-time professional numismatist.,-0&text=Reading back... you can,numeric grade in the pictures.

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BUFFNIXX said:
    from the list of active grading services above I believe there is one error
    that is IGC should be ICG

    list is.......................
    ANACS
    CACG
    IGC
    NGC
    NNC
    NTC
    PCGS
    SEGS

    I edited it.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2024 11:03AM

    @MWallace said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Greenstang said:
    One of the problems with SEGS is that they are not recognized by eBay so you would
    not be able to sell on their site unless you blacked out the grade.

    I'm not to sure about that.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    One will slip through occasionally but it's true.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    Have you checked this link? It looks like they all just about slipped through.

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @MWallace said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Greenstang said:
    One of the problems with SEGS is that they are not recognized by eBay so you would
    not be able to sell on their site unless you blacked out the grade.

    I'm not to sure about that.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    One will slip through occasionally but it's true.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    Have you checked this link? It looks like they all just about slipped through.

    It might be because the grade is not in the title.

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are OK because the grade has been blacked out. They are only against eBay policy if the grade shows. It is not the holder, it is the grade on the holder that can get it removed.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Greenstang said:
    Those are OK because the grade has been blacked out. They are only against eBay policy if the grade shows. It is not the holder, it is the grade on the holder that can get it removed.

    I count 9 in this one link where you can see the grades.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not all of them get reported. It is the same as with counterfeits, unless they are reported,
    they don’t get removed. There are listings removed every day but there are so many that
    they don’t all get caught. Also this is not at the top of the priority list when removing listings.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 38,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @MWallace said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Greenstang said:
    One of the problems with SEGS is that they are not recognized by eBay so you would
    not be able to sell on their site unless you blacked out the grade.

    I'm not to sure about that.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    One will slip through occasionally but it's true.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    Have you checked this link? It looks like they all just about slipped through.

    It might be because the grade is not in the title.

    It really depends on whether they are reported. I've had PCI slabs go through but others get pulled. None had the grade in the title or the text.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CRHer700 said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @MWallace said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Greenstang said:
    One of the problems with SEGS is that they are not recognized by eBay so you would
    not be able to sell on their site unless you blacked out the grade.

    I'm not to sure about that.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    One will slip through occasionally but it's true.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1312&_nkw=segs+coin&_sacat=0

    Have you checked this link? It looks like they all just about slipped through.

    It might be because the grade is not in the title.

    It really depends on whether they are reported. I've had PCI slabs go through but others get pulled. None had the grade in the title or the text.

    I think the title is the key. Evading eBay "AI" is the another. The AI isn't that intelligent.

  • EarlyUSEarlyUS Posts: 306 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:
    I am considering a significant SEGS submission, actually. "Grade" for the coins are of practically no interest to me - these are simply very difficult coins to attribute.

    Are they good at attribution?

    That's one of the things I want to find out, since their staff has turned over so much. Ten years ago, SEGS might have been considered "the best" for attribution of really esoteric items.

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