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edited February 5, 2025 5:14PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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  • JCH22JCH22 Posts: 355 ✭✭✭✭
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  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2024 7:38AM

    @JCH22 asked:

    May I ask the cite for your book on Scot?

    Nyberg, William F. Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty. Staunton, VA: American History Press, 2015.

    WorldCat Library listing: https://search.worldcat.org/title/919106086 (also in ANA and ANS libraries).

    Second printing 2022 is print on demand, price varies considerably, cheapest seems to be Amazon $24.95.

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of the arguments, both for and against the Mint, seem to be lacking in facts.

    ...it cost half a dollar to make a cent...

    This smacks of exaggeration, and probably cherrypicking of data?

    The small states of Germany still coin money, so does Scotland, but he did not think such coinage any mark of their independence.

    Many of the "small states of Germany" didn't have their own mint, but usually contracted out their coinage production to larger neighbouring states. It was certainly a point of "national pride" for a state to be wealthy enough to have its own mint. Ever since the invention of coinage, a city or state exercising the right to issue its own coinage has been a demonstration of independence.

    Scotland, however, was not striking its own coins in 1802 - they had ceased coinage production a hundred years earlier with the Act of Union in 1707, and has been using British coins ever since. The Scottish Mint still made British coins for a few years after Union, but the British shut it down soon afterwards as being not economically viable. Indeed, the complete lack of Scottish coins was a certain sign that Scotland was not an independent nation any more.

    ...we might, at much less expense than as now, send to Birmingham, England, to have our copper coined...

    Yes, Birmingham was at the time the world centre for production of cheap, high-quality copper coins and tokens, and by 1802 token production in Britain had largely ceased, so the private mints were seeking customers further afield. But in 1802, Britain may have sought peace but was not yet a friendly power. I wonder how that reliance on British sources for coinage would have gone over a decade later, during the War of 1812...

    Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.
    Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius, "Meditations"

    Apparently I have been awarded the DPOTD twice. B)
  • JCH22JCH22 Posts: 355 ✭✭✭✭
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