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Dollar 1799 USA
Sergey74
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Hi everyone. I have a question about this thing. Is it genuine or fake coin, your opinions? 
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Sergey74
Posts: 170 ✭✭✭
Sergey74
Posts: 170 ✭✭✭
Sergey74
Posts: 170 ✭✭✭
Sergey74
Posts: 170 ✭✭✭
Hi everyone. I have a question about this thing. Is it genuine or fake coin, your opinions?
Peace.
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Definitely a counterfeit. Just look at the eyes plus the stars are wrong.
They didn't do a terrible job overall, it's obvious that they used an existing 8x5 1799 to transfer it from, but the detail is soft and there's absolutely no authentic wear or luster for what would be a high AU coin. And of course the look of the "aging" just screams Chinese fake.
Many of the areas you highlighted are actually as expected: the slope on the "1", the die crack to star 10 and the "R" in America, and the missing serif on the "U" in United are all correct for this issue.
Thanks men. We have the thing in an auction now in Russia with price near $3400 as a start. I just didn't like the coin's look. And i didn't like the details. But i have understood about the stamp's features. Any opinions else?
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Sorry, i have additional question, cause i have this one (1799, low condition). What's meaning "unit" in the edge's inscription "hundred cents or dollar or unit"?
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Fluffy155, if you have the photos of the same type, please show it to compare. With "1", "U", etc.
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For a larger image: https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.net/cert/70344105/large/40205377.jpg
You can clearly see the die crack, and diagnostic "1" and "U" issues. My understanding is that "Unit" was just another way of saying "crown like coin" such as a Mexico 8R, German thaler, or any number of large silver coins of about the same weight that circulated at the time.
Move this to the U.S. Coin subforum for more input.
Always be very wary of Bust Dollars. They have been faking them in quantity since the mid-1990s and the quality of the fakes has improved over time. The TPG holders have also been faked so be extra cautious when buying any. If you have even the slightest doubt ...pass.