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Contemporary Counterfeit 1860 Seated Quarter

World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

I ran across this in my searches and thought it was interesting.


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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a contemporary counterfeit, very primitive portrait of Liberty.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like it stayed in circulation for many years.

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    CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any bite marks visible?

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one!

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:
    Any bite marks visible?

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    RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 21, 2024 8:40AM

    Contemporary yes, but I cannot believe it would fool any adult with 1/2 a brain. I mean just because its the middle of the 19th Century is it also assumed that the populations never conceived that counterfeits could be out and about.....wow

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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice period counterfeit. Back during the Civil War era if you had mixed this into a circulated pile of quarters it likely would have slipped through.


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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that engraving is exceptionally good for a counterfeit of that era.

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    TypekatTypekat Posts: 670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s likely that this bogus coin is pretty much ‘as cast’ for details.

    A fake had a better chance of ‘passing’ if it appeared to have been spent repeatedly.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    THis piece was struck from false dies.

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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2024 10:15AM

    Got Beak!

    Whoa...baby got beak!

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    THis piece was struck from false dies.

    The fact that the design differs from that of an authentic coin indicates that it was struck from hand engraved dies. If the dies were cast from a real coin, the design would be a lot closer to that of a genuine coin although the design would be less sharp and the surfaces would likely be more porous or fuzzy.

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fastfreddie said:
    Got Beak!

    Whoa...baby got beak!

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    ShurkeShurke Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe the evidence is clear: Picasso was inspired by this counterfeit.

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