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Slab Toning -- Old NGC slabs -- ?

Has anyone had this experience. I've heard of this happening but now it's been confirmed by a seller. I was looking to purchase a 25 Peace and I questioned the seller as to the color of the toning, since it was tough to make out from the scans. It had nice golden, russet toning with some orange highlights. He then went on to say, he's had the coin for the past 15-17 years and it has toned IN THE SLAB. When he bought it, it was blast white. I doubt he is lying, he wants to sell his coin, why would he make this up?

Does anyone else have coins in older NGC holders that have toned while slabbed? I've heard of this and it was explained to me that the coin was interacting with the paper label since there was no gasket.

Okay -- final question -- natural or AT, is this the modern version of album toning, are we going to have slab toning? I gotta start buying up all those older NGC slabs. image

Michael

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,819 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always wondered if exposed to the right light if a slabbed coins will eventually tone?

    peacockcoins

  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Well, a slab doesn't stop toning since the toning process already started. It just slows it down a lot. But even that can be gotten around.
  • Michael - This particular coin is not in an old-old NGC holder, but I've been told by several board members that it could be exactly the type of toning that you're referring to. In this case I would consider it the same as album toning and no - not AT.

    Frank

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Michael, I have seen numerous coins in both NGC and PCGS holders which I believe to have toned in the holders.

    One reason this can occur is if a coin has been dipped and improperly rinsed.
    Another is, that once a coin has been exposed to the elements and a chemical reaction begins, placing it inside an NGC or PCGS holder does not always prevent a continued reaction.
  • Fratt,
    I had several of mine change slightly, all old NGC holders. As explained to me by GSA Guy, it is caused by the paper insert in the holder. I gave NGC seven of them to reholder at FUN and have them back already.
    They charged $4 each.

    Regards,
    Tim
    My proof Jeffs
  • MorganluverMorganluver Posts: 517 ✭✭✭
    I have a number of older holder NGC coins that have developed the same kind of peripheral toning you describe that were white when I bought them. I believe it's from the white insert used to house the coin. There is obviously some chemical leaching that has occured combined with air seepage to produce this reaction. Fortunately, the colors imparted are attractive. Some have toning that has creeped in a half inch or so.
  • MadMonkMadMonk Posts: 3,743
    Yes I have, and I also see it as a problem. NGC could be really sweet and reholder themimage
    Use a Volatile Corrosion Inhibitor (VCI) if it worries you. I really don't know long time results, but it's gotta be better than nothing.
    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

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