Translating weirdly written letter?

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AlbumNerd
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Help Requested!

This letter was included in one of my old Dansco albums. But it appears to be written in some foreign language. It is almost bordering on hieroglyphics. I think the author of the letter may have been Greek.

Has anyone seen this before? How would I go about translating this?

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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Must have nodded off when teacher got to that part 🧐

  • AlbumNerd
    AlbumNerd Posts: 279 ✭✭✭✭
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    Please for the love of all that’s holy - please tell me you are joking? Have the schools failed this miserably?

    Interesting! I would have never guessed the letter would translate to this!

  • Namvet69
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    If you don't savy cursive, it might as well be klingon. Peace Roy

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  • thebeav
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    Nope, this thread wasn't started on April first.....

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  • DoubleEagle59
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    My son and daughter are 33 and 35 and are University educated and very well rounded individuals with good common sense and good knowhow, but both struggle with reading cursive handwriting.

    It's just the way it is.

    My daughter way back in High school, told me most of her friends couldn't tell the time of a clock with hands because everyone had digital clocks.

    No one has to spell these days either.

    Just the way modern times have evolved.

    Wait another generation with AI taking over.

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  • gumby1234
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    They don't teach many things in school anymore. That letter is easy to read.

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  • goodmoney4badmoney
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    I heard this is called “Grandma Font” now.

  • ElKevvo
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    Yeah writing in cursive is a dying skill...my kids (20 and 22) had cursive taught in elementary school but only for a short period and really never had to use it so the skill is lost on them. But honestly IMO they don't need that skill for their lives these days.

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  • DisneyFan
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    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    My son and daughter are 33 and 35 and are University educated and very well rounded individuals with good common sense and good knowhow, but both struggle with reading cursive handwriting.

    It's just the way it is.

    My daughter way back in High school, told me most of her friends couldn't tell the time of a clock with hands because everyone had digital clocks.

    No one has to spell these days either.

    Just the way modern times have evolved.

    Wait another generation with AI taking over.

    WOW! No wonder the country is going to.... Better stop now before I get too political and banned from the board.

  • davewesen
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    Did the album still have the California Mission medals?

    I heard many recent high school graduates do not know how to sign their name and have trouble with addition and subtraction.

  • jmlanzaf
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    I want to say "Hey, Boomer!" but I almost am one. [Born in 1964.] While it is always a little shocking to discover that the required skills of your youth are now obsolete, that should not translate into condemnation of the students or the educational system. There is really very little use for cursive. You can print anything you need to write and most things aren't even written these days.

    And while it might be satisfying to think that there is a superiority in knowing these things, you might consider there are things that a 25 year old knows that you don't.

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  • DoubleEagle59
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    Throughout time, every mature generation has thought the younger generation is going down the toilet.

    A few examples.......

    1. I was watching a black and white 1932 movie once and a young single man and his Mom were in their kitchen and the Mom said 'why don't you find a nice girl to marry' and his response was, ' Mom, they don't make them like they used to'.

    2. in my daughter's history class, the professor showed a 3000 year old hand inscribed Greek text lamenting the exact same thing about the 'newer' generation.....'what is the world coming to with this younger generation'.

    Personally, I'm not worrying about it as I have much more important things to be concerned with such as, at age 65, trying desperately to maintain 250 yards off the tee with my driver.......

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  • Fraz
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    OP is too glib. One who knows that hieroglyphics and Greek are writing systems knows cursive writing.

  • SaorAlba
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    I really like to throw off people and write in Cyrillic cursive for stuff I only want to be able to read later.

  • may
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    @Jacques_Loungecoque said:

    @AlbumNerd said:
    Help Requested!

    This letter was included in one of my old Dansco albums. But it appears to be written in some foreign language. It is almost bordering on hieroglyphics. I think the author of the letter may have been Greek.

    Has anyone seen this before? How would I go about translating this?

    Please for the love of all that’s holy - please tell me you are joking? Have the schools failed this miserably?

    I'm young and even I can read this.

  • goodmoney4badmoney
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    @MFeld said:
    Raise your hand if you think the post was an attempt at humor.🖐️

    I found it funny, and some of the pearl-clutching in response just as amusing. Well played indeed.

  • Jacques_Loungecoque
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    @MFeld said:
    Raise your hand if you think the post was an attempt at humor.🖐️

    If it was I think it failed miserably.

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  • lermish
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    @MFeld said:
    Raise your hand if you think the post was an attempt at humor.🖐️

    🖐️

    @Jacques_Loungecoque said:

    If it was I think it failed miserably.

    Agreed.

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  • oldabeintx
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    @JBK said:

    @AlbumNerd said:

    Please for the love of all that’s holy - please tell me you are joking? Have the schools failed this miserably?

    Interesting! I would have never guessed the letter would translate to this!

    It doesn't "translate" to anything. It very clearly reads as stated. It is very legible cursive writing. :/

    The OP is pulling tour leg.

  • oldabeintx
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    Your

  • DisneyFan
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    There is really very little use for cursive.
    >
    Apparently too many true/false and multiple choice exams.

  • GRANDAM
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    @ajaan said:
    Most schools don't teach cursive now.

    That shows a failure in our modern school system.

    GrandAm :)
  • MFeld
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    @GRANDAM said:

    @ajaan said:
    Most schools don't teach cursive now.

    That shows a failure in our modern school system.

    I don’t see it that way. What type of failure would that be?

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  • braddick
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    Of course he is joking around.
    An interesting letter indeed! I too have been searching for this album.
    It is truly illusive.

    These are the medals that it would contain:

  • GRANDAM
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    The failure to be able to communicate effectively.

    The same thing as when you go to McDonalds and the kid can't count out your change because he doesn't have a calculator handy. The other day the kid had to count my change out 9 times before he got it right,,,,,, I watched him do it.

    GrandAm :)
  • BuffaloIronTail
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    Unfortunately, the post is an example of where things are heading.

    Pete

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  • seatedlib3991
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    I consider that to be well written. I am left handed and spent 3 YEARS of my life being forced to carve things with my right hand. Only after Msr. Harder broke three of my fingers hitting my hand with a yardstick did that hell end. As such, I taught myself left handed cursive and there are about 3 people on planet earth who can read it. james

  • olah_in_MA
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    my 4 children did not learn cursive in school and my youngest only knows how to sign her name in block letters

  • DisneyFan
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    @JBK said:

    Being able to communicate effectively is more than just a generational difference.

    A person who can't read or write basic cursive probably doesn't send thank you notes or condolence letters or written communications of any kind. Emails and texts would replace these but I'm guessing they don't send those, either, in these situations. (I'm sure there are exceptions).

    Spellcheck replaces knowing how to spell, further eroding literacy.

    I frequently peruse another forum (not coins) and posts by younger members are often unintelligible - no punctuation, capitalization, quotation marks, etc.

    Proper English (for those of us living in an English-speaking country) is central to laws, rules, contracts, etc.

    Unfortunately times are changing and even legal documents can be signed on the internet by using DocuSign rather than requiring a hand written signature.

  • DisneyFan
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    @lermish said:

    For all of those who bemoan the lack of "education" of today's youth, how are your horse shoeing abilities? I'm sure your grandparents thought cars were loud and expensive and wasteful compared to the ease of horse and buggy.

    And nobody collects horseshoes anymore.

  • Fraz
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    @MFeld said:

    Maybe the kid at McDonald’s took a long time to count out the change because he was actually looking for valuable coins.😉

    He found some filled Ps, doubtful dies, and CAC on the surface of the error coins.

  • PeakRarities
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    I can read the letter in the OP, but I am absolutely awful when it comes to cursive, especially when it’s not as neat. I went to public school in New Jersey (ranked quite high for education) and we learned cursive for like a month in 3rd grade, and then that was it. Never used it again. I’m pretty good at spelling and math though, they didn’t fail us there.

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  • oldabeintx
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    Since few seem inclined to view the OP as a jest, I’ll add my 2c.

    I’m 78, haven’t used cursive in probably 50 years and have done pretty okay. Hated it in grade school, thought it was a terrible waste of school time. I believe I was vindicated. It is pretty though, when done right can add a touch of class.

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