Wouldn't it be great if PCGS...

1TwoBits · February 21, 2024 8:26PM

You can insert your wish here, but mine would be:

Wouldn't it be great if PCGS offered a variety attribution service on previously encapsulated coins? I would see this as a service where you send in the coin, PCGS attributes the variety and places a variety ID sticker on the holder, updates the coin in their online population, and now the coin can be properly used in a registry set without losing on OGH, a rattler, etc.

I'm of the same opinion as some, that its the coin that matters most and not so much the holder. However, the old holders can be nice and wanted by some for various reasons and PCGS would still make money from the new attribution service. I've been holding out on one OGH I should really re-holder for variety attribution, which should mean this service will eventually come out after I finally re-holder it for variety attribution.

Forgive me if someone has already suggested this idea.

1TwoBits

scubafuel · February 21, 2024 9:07PM

Post the OGH and we'll attribute it for you! I like your idea. Since they're willing to do truviews while in old holders, maybe this will work out as well.

My wish is that PCGS starts + grading at every grade level. What's the point of having an awesome flawless VF if it can't be worth more than a crappy one??

Crypto · February 21, 2024 9:24PM

It would be cool if PCGS opened the depths of the numerous coin photos in coin facts again.

DCW · February 22, 2024 5:10AM

Allow tokens and medals submissions to go back under "economy" when the estimated value aligns with the max value on the PCGS submission form. They currently make you submit under "special issues" tier which is $65. That is not realistic for a large percentage of really cool exonumia, and I'm sure nobody here is submitting a hundred dollar civil war token while paying a hundred dollars in fees/shipping/etc.

MWallace · February 22, 2024 5:28AM

@1TwoBits said:
You can insert your wish here, but mine would be:

Wouldn't it be great if PCGS offered a variety attribution service on previously encapsulated coins? I would see this as a service where you send in the coin, PCGS attributes the variety and places a variety ID sticker on the holder, updates the coin in their online population, and now the coin can be properly used in a registry set without losing on OGH, a rattler, etc.

I'm of the same opinion as some, that its the coin that matters most and not so much the holder. However, the old holders can be nice and wanted by some for various reasons and PCGS would still make money from the new attribution service. I've been holding out on one OGH I should really re-holder for variety attribution, which should mean this service will eventually come out after I finally re-holder it for variety attribution.

Forgive me if someone has already suggested this idea.

1TwoBits

VSS, Variety Slabbing Service, is already doing this. They do a great job, at a reasonable price, and the service is lightening fast. They're main niche is VAMs, but they do other varieties too. I don't know if they're accepted in the Registry Sets, but Great Collections accepts them. The owner of this service, @messydesk , is a regular here.

jmlanzaf · February 22, 2024 5:35AM

@scubafuel said:
Post the OGH and we'll attribute it for you! I like your idea. Since they're willing to do truviews while in old holders, maybe this will work out as well.

My wish is that PCGS starts + grading at every grade level. What's the point of having an awesome flawless VF if it can't be worth more than a crappy one??

You already have multiple VF grades. A 35 is worth more than a 30 is worth more than a 25 which is worth more than a 20. Do you really want a 22 or a 27?

Insider3 · February 22, 2024 6:13AM

I wish PCGS would give a blanket amnesty to banned members. They could be on a tight rope - one warning only, then gone. We are missing lots of added content from them - most of which we all enjoyed. If not "blanket" then let the current members pick their top ten or let PCGS mods pick the members with the most agrees & likes.

Martin · February 22, 2024 6:19AM

@Insider3 said:
I wish PCGS would give a blanket amnesty to banned members. They could be on a tight rope - one warning only, then gone. We are missing lots of added content from them - most of which we all enjoyed. If not "blanket" then let the current members pick their top ten or let PCGS mods pick the members with the most agrees & likes.

I agree then we could get Insider2 back

Martin

LanLord · February 22, 2024 6:31AM

@Martin said:

@Insider3 said:
I wish PCGS would give a blanket amnesty to banned members. They could be on a tight rope - one warning only, then gone. We are missing lots of added content from them - most of which we all enjoyed. If not "blanket" then let the current members pick their top ten or let PCGS mods pick the members with the most agrees & likes.

I agree then we could get Insider2 back

Martin

But... isn't insider3 one better than insider2?

Manifest_Destiny · February 22, 2024 6:39AM

Remove the 1873-cc NA from the seated quarter registry sets like they did with the seated dime set. Or at least create a separate registry without the 1873-cc NA like they did with the 1876-cc 20c.

DoubleEagle59 · February 22, 2024 6:47AM

Would open an office in Canada.

Every time I get coins back, our wonderful Canadian Customs office, charges me duties (13%) and every time I have to send in all the documents (copies of invoice, submission form and tracking details) and I do get the duties rescinded, but it takes a long time and is of course, a huge pain in the you know what.

Insider3 · February 22, 2024 6:56AM

@LanLord said:

@Martin said:

@Insider3 said:
I wish PCGS would give a blanket amnesty to banned members. They could be on a tight rope - one warning only, then gone. We are missing lots of added content from them - most of which we all enjoyed. If not "blanket" then let the current members pick their top ten or let PCGS mods pick the members with the most agrees & likes.

I agree then we could get Insider2 back

Martin

But... isn't insider3 one better than insider2?

Perhaps, as long as I keep the gag in my mouth. I've had some (Insider 2 like) posts removed - probably just a computer problem on my end - and if I disappear, I guarantee there will be no Insider4 used by me. Some troll should become Insider 4 tomorrow an terrorize us.

BLUEJAYWAY · February 22, 2024 7:26AM

3 has a tough act to follow.

Martin · February 22, 2024 7:46AM

@LanLord said:

@Martin said:

@Insider3 said:
I wish PCGS would give a blanket amnesty to banned members. They could be on a tight rope - one warning only, then gone. We are missing lots of added content from them - most of which we all enjoyed. If not "blanket" then let the current members pick their top ten or let PCGS mods pick the members with the most agrees & likes.

I agree then we could get Insider2 back

Martin

But... isn't insider3 one better than insider2?

Yes. Just think of the conversations they could have with each other.

Martin

PerryHall · February 22, 2024 7:57AM

@MWallace said:

@1TwoBits said:
You can insert your wish here, but mine would be:

Wouldn't it be great if PCGS offered a variety attribution service on previously encapsulated coins? I would see this as a service where you send in the coin, PCGS attributes the variety and places a variety ID sticker on the holder, updates the coin in their online population, and now the coin can be properly used in a registry set without losing on OGH, a rattler, etc.

I'm of the same opinion as some, that its the coin that matters most and not so much the holder. However, the old holders can be nice and wanted by some for various reasons and PCGS would still make money from the new attribution service. I've been holding out on one OGH I should really re-holder for variety attribution, which should mean this service will eventually come out after I finally re-holder it for variety attribution.

Forgive me if someone has already suggested this idea.

1TwoBits

VSS, Variety Slabbing Service, is already doing this. They do a great job, at a reasonable price, and the service is lightening fast. They're main niche is VAMs, but they do other varieties too. I don't know if they're accepted in the Registry Sets, but Great Collections accepts them. The owner of this service, @messydesk , is a regular here.

I'm not familiar with VSS slabs. Does someone have some pics that they can share?

MetroD · February 22, 2024 9:17AM

@PerryHall said:

@MWallace said:

VSS, Variety Slabbing Service, is already doing this. They do a great job, at a reasonable price, and the service is lightening fast. They're main niche is VAMs, but they do other varieties too. I don't know if they're accepted in the Registry Sets, but Great Collections accepts them. The owner of this service, @messydesk , is a regular here.

I'm not familiar with VSS slabs. Does someone have some pics that they can share?

The VAMSlab for raw coins.
The VAMSeal for coins already in a TPG holder.

retirednow · February 22, 2024 9:34AM

Allow CAC & NGC slabs in their registry ... even if they are excluded from points for awards

WaterSport · February 22, 2024 10:32AM

If PCGS had a public relations specialist whose job to be proactive with announcements as to why they no longer will accept X variety, why they are cracking down on questionable color, why the 2023 Pins are only still in the hands of only a few, when will the 2024 coins be activated. You get the idea. Even when the Company was started – is was a large black hole of non-communication. Sure, you could stop David Hall at a show, or whoever was president (I could not even tell who is pres. now come to think of it) and ask someone. But most if any announcements came to the forum from PCGS reps speaking speaking at the annual PCGS Awards Luncheon (and of course – that no longer exist) I mean the number of threads over the past years - with a question, that has gone unanswered, is deafening. Let’s go back to when PCGS decided one day to just drop the 1922 no D weak reverse cent. That should have been a public announcement. But no, I had to ask the question and fortunately Heather responded with an answer, but is this really the right way to handle this??

oih82w8 · February 22, 2024 11:43AM

@MWallace said:

@1TwoBits said:
You can insert your wish here, but mine would be:

Wouldn't it be great if PCGS offered a variety attribution service on previously encapsulated coins? I would see this as a service where you send in the coin, PCGS attributes the variety and places a variety ID sticker on the holder, updates the coin in their online population, and now the coin can be properly used in a registry set without losing on OGH, a rattler, etc.

I'm of the same opinion as some, that its the coin that matters most and not so much the holder. However, the old holders can be nice and wanted by some for various reasons and PCGS would still make money from the new attribution service. I've been holding out on one OGH I should really re-holder for variety attribution, which should mean this service will eventually come out after I finally re-holder it for variety attribution.

Forgive me if someone has already suggested this idea.

1TwoBits

VSS, Variety Slabbing Service, is already doing this. They do a great job, at a reasonable price, and the service is lightening fast. They're main niche is VAMs, but they do other varieties too. I don't know if they're accepted in the Registry Sets, but Great Collections accepts them. The owner of this service, @messydesk , is a regular here.

I have used VSS a couple of times and have been pleased with their service. The only drawback I have experienced with VSS is that dealers do not recognize this attribution, I found out when I went to Grapevine a couple weeks ago. Collectors appreciate their service, but dealers wanted the attribution from the holder service.

oih82w8 · February 22, 2024 11:46AM

I wish that PCGS would reuse the existing labels (saving the OGH labels) and solid gasket holders on reholdering service. I have not taken a shine to those finger prong gaskets.

BStrauss3 · February 22, 2024 11:56AM

@LanLord said:

@Martin said:

@Insider3 said:
I wish PCGS would give a blanket amnesty to banned members. They could be on a tight rope - one warning only, then gone. We are missing lots of added content from them - most of which we all enjoyed. If not "blanket" then let the current members pick their top ten or let PCGS mods pick the members with the most agrees & likes.

I agree then we could get Insider2 back

Martin

But... isn't insider3 one better than insider2?

No, that's Insider2++

Dave99B · February 22, 2024 12:00PM

.... added a bit more info on why a coin didn't cross.

Dave

jesbroken · February 22, 2024 1:44PM

I would think it great if PCGS or any grading company, would offer an opinion only with no guarantees, an attribution service from photos. Would it be exact, no, but I think it would be worth a fee. Some are hard to be sure of and help would be a benefit to some of us interested in such things. Of course, there are some coins without enough meat to determine and doubtful many would send them in, but if they are willing to pay a fee for rejection, sobeit. JMO
Jim

OAKSTAR · February 22, 2024 2:50PM

@PerryHall said:

@MWallace said:

@1TwoBits said:
You can insert your wish here, but mine would be:

Wouldn't it be great if PCGS offered a variety attribution service on previously encapsulated coins? I would see this as a service where you send in the coin, PCGS attributes the variety and places a variety ID sticker on the holder, updates the coin in their online population, and now the coin can be properly used in a registry set without losing on OGH, a rattler, etc.

I'm of the same opinion as some, that its the coin that matters most and not so much the holder. However, the old holders can be nice and wanted by some for various reasons and PCGS would still make money from the new attribution service. I've been holding out on one OGH I should really re-holder for variety attribution, which should mean this service will eventually come out after I finally re-holder it for variety attribution.

Forgive me if someone has already suggested this idea.

1TwoBits

VSS, Variety Slabbing Service, is already doing this. They do a great job, at a reasonable price, and the service is lightening fast. They're main niche is VAMs, but they do other varieties too. I don't know if they're accepted in the Registry Sets, but Great Collections accepts them. The owner of this service, @messydesk , is a regular here.

I'm not familiar with VSS slabs. Does someone have some pics that they can share?

Davidk7 · February 22, 2024 2:57PM

Moved my submission from received to grading after 1+ month

Nic · February 22, 2024 2:58PM

@Crypto said:
It would be cool if PCGS opened the depths of the numerous coin photos in coin facts again.

Yes sir. Fab resource. Would help folks and could be monetized. I won't be holding my breath.

Manifest_Destiny · February 22, 2024 3:24PM

Got rid of their competitor, CAC, from the registry.

ChrisH821 · February 22, 2024 4:13PM

@Crypto said:
It would be cool if PCGS opened the depths of the numerous coin photos in coin facts again.

We can't be trusted with that kind of power again.

Crepidodera · February 22, 2024 4:28PM

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Remove the 1873-cc NA from the seated quarter registry sets like they did with the seated dime set. Or at least create a separate registry without the 1873-cc NA like they did with the 1876-cc 20c.

Don,

I actually talked to someone a few years ago about that very subject and got nowhwere. Hard to assemble
a complete everyman set when there are no PCGS graded coins that qualify!

Doug

SanctionII · February 22, 2024 5:35PM

Agreed with me that 1950-1970 proof and SMS coins I submit to it for grading warrant receiving a Cameo or a DCAM designation.

For example these recently submitted coins, IMO , should have received a Cameo designation but they did not.

alaura22 · February 22, 2024 9:04PM

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Got rid of their competitor, CAC, from the registry.

CAC is not a competitor.

alaura22 · February 22, 2024 9:08PM

Stop straight grading coins that have problems

Cranium_Basher73 · February 22, 2024 10:28PM

....when you look up a certificate number it also tells you when it was encapsulated.

PerryHall · February 23, 2024 3:18AM

@alaura22 said:

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Got rid of their competitor, CAC, from the registry.

CAC is not a competitor.

I think he was referring to CACG.

MFeld · February 23, 2024 5:00AM

Wouldn't it be great if PCGS...
didn’t have so many unrealistically high price guide values.

Yes, I know that sometimes the listed values are spot-on or too low. And that in many cases, there are no recent sales upon which to value coins. However, quite often, when providing clients with current value estimates for their coins - and that’s something I do a lot of - my estimates are 75% or less of price guide values. And my estimates are based on prices that coins have actually traded at.

Here are just two examples for common, frequently traded coins:
MS65 common date Morgan dollars $250
MS65 common date Saints $2900

jmlanzaf · February 23, 2024 6:06AM

@Martin said:

@Insider3 said:
I wish PCGS would give a blanket amnesty to banned members. They could be on a tight rope - one warning only, then gone. We are missing lots of added content from them - most of which we all enjoyed. If not "blanket" then let the current members pick their top ten or let PCGS mods pick the members with the most agrees & likes.

I agree then we could get Insider2 back

Martin

He was the best of the Insiders.

jmlanzaf · February 23, 2024 6:08AM

@PerryHall said:

@alaura22 said:

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Got rid of their competitor, CAC, from the registry.

CAC is not a competitor.

I think he was referring to CACG.

Except CACG isn't in the registry.

coinbuf · February 23, 2024 2:45PM

It would be great if PCGS started to grade coins again not price them.

OAKSTAR · February 23, 2024 2:52PM

@coinbuf said:
It would be great if PCGS started to grade coins again not price them.

From what I've seen (and I could be missing something), the PCGS and NGC price guides are nowhere near reality.

coinbuf · February 23, 2024 3:06PM

@OAKSTAR said:

@coinbuf said:
It would be great if PCGS started to grade coins again not price them.

From what I've seen (and I could be missing something), the PCGS and NGC price guides are nowhere near reality.

My comment has nothing to do with price guides.

OAKSTAR · February 23, 2024 3:13PM

@coinbuf said:

@OAKSTAR said:

@coinbuf said:
It would be great if PCGS started to grade coins again not price them.

From what I've seen (and I could be missing something), the PCGS and NGC price guides are nowhere near reality.

My comment has nothing to do with price guides.

Oh.........never mind.

Barberian · February 23, 2024 4:27PM

I wish PCGS did a better job of grading Canadian coins.

semikeycollector · February 24, 2024 9:00AM

I wish PCGS would give more points in the registry sets to low grade rare coins.

My key 1874-cc dime in G-6 is worth a fraction of what a 1853 EF with arrows gets. I have heard that they try to tilt the playing field, because everyone cannot own rare coins, but this is just unfair!
Give me some more credit for having the patience to acquire the key collectable coin!

I see collections missing most of the keys but having high grade circulated common dates surpassing my set in rank.

In the end, it doesn't matter so much, This makes my collection more special to me.

I mean no offense to other collectors that don't see keys as a priority and appreciate generally higher grade coins.

Atcarroll · February 24, 2024 12:12PM

@scubafuel said:
Post the OGH and we'll attribute it for you! I like your idea. Since they're willing to do truviews while in old holders, maybe this will work out as well.

My wish is that PCGS starts + grading at every grade level. What's the point of having an awesome flawless VF if it can't be worth more than a crappy one??

There's a lot of spread in VF. 20, 25, 30, 35. Adding pluses would probably be trying to parse it too finely.

scubafuel · February 24, 2024 12:56PM

Those VF grades are just varying degrees of wear on the coin. You can have a super coin at any grade.

1TwoBits · February 24, 2024 5:15PM

Aren’t plus grades supposed to be more about eye appeal? I can really see them on any grade, if warranted.

1TwoBits

Manifest_Destiny · February 27, 2024 10:48PM

@alaura22 said:

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Got rid of their competitor, CAC, from the registry.

CAC is not a competitor.

The CACG website runs both sides of the business.

alaura22 · February 27, 2024 10:53PM

@Manifest_Destiny said:

@alaura22 said:

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Got rid of their competitor, CAC, from the registry.

CAC is not a competitor.

The CACG website runs both sides of the business.

Congratulations on your 3000 post
You specifically said CAC from the registry, Not CACG which isn't on the registry

Manifest_Destiny · February 27, 2024 11:06PM

@alaura22 said:

@Manifest_Destiny said:

@alaura22 said:

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Got rid of their competitor, CAC, from the registry.

CAC is not a competitor.

The CACG website runs both sides of the business.

Congratulations on your 3000 post
You specifically said CAC from the registry, Not CACG which isn't on the registry

CAC and CACG are the same company, and a competitor.

alaura22 · February 27, 2024 11:11PM

I disagree, I see CAC as a benefit and CACG as a competitor
JMO

JJM · February 28, 2024 6:59AM

Get rid of prong holders

Wouldn't it be great if PCGS...

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