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True View photos not acceptable for PCGS Registry Album

Today I update my Trade Dollar registry set with my recent purchases. In the past I always used the True Views if available for my virtual Registry Album, but these TV photos of the 1873 CC and 1873 S are not useable. Someone paid $5 for these Ture Views. I hope they got a credit back for the photos that do not represent what the coin looks like. I purchased the 1873 S online from only the True View photo, and I was in for a big surprise when I received the coin. Last time I make the mistake of buying a coin only from the True View photo. My photos are close to what the coin looks like in hand. In fairness, I did use the True View photo of the 1874 S Chop Mark for my Registry set as it is a nice representation of the coin.


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  • redraiderredraider Posts: 237 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah....there are multiple recent threads on this subject. Someone in one of the other threads said they could get better photos with a polaroid. This is a trend that has to be addressed quickly. I won't send any coins to them until I see consistently better quality Trueviews. The TVs was one of my primary reasons for using PCGS to grade my collection.

  • redraiderredraider Posts: 237 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now....That being said, there might be an opportunity to buy coins for less money based on horrible images! I have seen these crummy TVs on recent listings and I think to myself, the coins must look way better in person!

  • slider23slider23 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭✭

    @redraider said:
    Now....That being said, there might be an opportunity to buy coins for less money based on horrible images! I have seen these crummy TVs on recent listings and I think to myself, the coins must look way better in person!

    On the 1873 S the True View does not show any marks. The coin is in a XF 40 holder and the True View looks like it could be AU50. In hand there are some light cleaning marks that you can pick up in my photos and it appears PCGS net graded it to XF40.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess they need to stop calling them "True" Views.

  • HolyCityHolyCity Posts: 21 ✭✭✭

    I can’t understand it. You would think they’d be trying to separate themselves from the competition right now. Instead they let the wheels fall off one of the most important departments of the service.

  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Behind PCGS's back, most people are calling these FalseViews or NotTrueViews.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a little too kind. I've seen them called **Views where **=something with a similar yellowish color....

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  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OriginalDan said:
    Behind PCGS's back, most people are calling these FalseViews or NotTrueViews.

    When I first read the OP I thought he typed Turd Views.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Many of the nice toners you see in a TruView look nothing like the coin in hand.

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  • calgolddivercalgolddiver Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marvinf said:
    My proof 1882 quarter. This was done around March, 2025.

    how does it compare in hand ?

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  • marvinfmarvinf Posts: 50 ✭✭

    The key is how light falls on the coin and is reflected to the viewer. In hand, through the plastic and with flat lighting, the reflectivity of the plastic gets in the way. That's why I like good TV photos for auctions. Today, with relatively few people looking at the coin in hand and with plastic in the way, a good picture can make all the difference in an auction. In past years, at auction viewings,In a dark room, and with light coming from a good light source an angle, you would be able to angle the coin to pick up this color. But capturing the color in a photo takes some technique. Doug Plascentia at NGC is very good at it. And now that NGC is taking out-of-the-slab pictures (Photovision Plus), Doug is able to get a lot of toning color in his shots. But PCGS, at times, has had no equal. See the following picture of my 300-year old Charles VI coronation medal:

  • marvinfmarvinf Posts: 50 ✭✭

    Here's a good primer on digital photograph of coins.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_tH0PUYkso

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2025 5:10AM

    I have the same problem. Check out this TV vs my images. On one hand I like them because they show the originality of the coin. On the other they do not look the same.


    Sellers images which were terrible I think. Coin looks all bleached out.

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