1917 Standing Liberty Quarter

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Apollo_23
Apollo_23 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭
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What do you all think of this 1917 standing liberty quarter. Looks too good to me. I don't think it is fake but maybe dipped? Or maybe not. What do you think?


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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Detail are pretty mushy, I say it's not US Mint made.
    Not my series by any means however,
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  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not my series either but I think it's a legit US coin... that said, its definitely a "mushy" strike for a 1917 SLQ T1 and the breaks in peripheral toning may indicate a past cleaning. When I was looking at them for my 7070, finding FH samples wasn't that hard...

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  • clarkbar04
    clarkbar04 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Legit, hard to offer grade guesstimates through a holder though.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • Apollo_23
    Apollo_23 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭
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    @clarkbar04 said:
    Legit, hard to offer grade guesstimates through a holder though.

    I was not worried If it was legit. More If it was dipped / cleaned. Shame if it was, it really has most of its detial. A coin of that age should show even a tiny bit of aging or toning.

  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    cleaned

  • lsica
    lsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2024 9:32AM
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    It looks like its a mostly mark-free full-head (even full b***) specimen, so the damage from the harsh cleaning is especially sad :(

    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • Apollo_23
    Apollo_23 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭
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    @lsica said:
    It looks like its a mostly mark-free full-head (even full b***) specimen, so the damage from the harsh cleaning is especially sad :(

    Yes it is. Different note, this a 1916?

  • NeophyteNumismatist
    NeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Apollo_23 said:

    @lsica said:
    It looks like its a mostly mark-free full-head (even full b***) specimen, so the damage from the harsh cleaning is especially sad :(

    Yes it is. Different note, this a 1916?

    It is not. You can tell by the shape of the head. The 1916 looks like the 1917 (with the point coming off the back of the head)

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2024 9:57AM
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    @Apollo_23 said:

    @lsica said:
    It looks like its a mostly mark-free full-head (even full b***) specimen, so the damage from the harsh cleaning is especially sad :(

    Yes it is. Different note, this a 1916?

    They didn't make 1916-s quarters

  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    thats the rare 1916, its a 7+

  • Apollo_23
    Apollo_23 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭
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    I know I know. I accidentally posted the wrong photo. This was the correct one but I am sure it not either but the head looked like it might. Sorry not the best photo but when there are 50, it's hard to get a clear one

  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Genuine, but harshly cleaned

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  • DoubleEagle59
    DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dipped a time or two, but not too bad.

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • telephoto1
    telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Apollo_23 said:
    I know I know. I accidentally posted the wrong photo. This was the correct one but I am sure it not either but the head looked like it might. Sorry not the best photo but when there are 50, it's hard to get a clear one

    Looks to be a 1917. gown fold at bottom is wrong and the head is below the denticles/beads at top.
    On the 1916 it goes through them, thus:


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  • mirabela
    mirabela Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pass. This is an easy coin to find a nice certified example of.

    mirabela
  • FredS
    FredS Posts: 92 ✭✭✭
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    Dipping does not matter on the grade. Lovely toning can make the grade go up.

  • TomB
    TomB Posts: 23,191 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The 1917 is a dipped AU, but if that floats your boat then go for it.

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  • lsica
    lsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭
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    @FredS said:
    Dipping does not matter on the grade.

    Yes it can. Thousands of Details slabs show that.

    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • Dave99B
    Dave99B Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Real, but clearly dipped. Move on.

    Dave

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  • coinkat
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    Move on. My questions/concerns are not be adequately addressed by the images provided

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  • crazyhounddog
    crazyhounddog Posts: 14,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would stay clear of that particular coin. It appears to be problematic. That and the details are horrible. Buy yourself a nice PCGS graded one.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • FredS
    FredS Posts: 92 ✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2024 10:27PM
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    @lsica said:

    @FredS said:
    Dipping does not matter on the grade.

    Yes it can. Thousands of Details slabs show that.

    Sorry, if you dip a problem free coin, it grades just fine. John stickers them all the time also. You do remember that is how they looked when they left the mint right? (Not to mention you can pay PCGS and NGC to dip them for you!)

  • lsica
    lsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭
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    @FredS said:
    Sorry, if you dip a problem free coin, it grades just fine.

    If you carefully and sparingly dip a "problem free coin", it will probably "grade just fine". But there's a lot of coins out there in "details" holders where an owner did not exercise the care/restraint/discretion necessary. So a general statement of "dipping does not matter on the grade" is at least misleading

    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • FredS
    FredS Posts: 92 ✭✭✭
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    @lsica said:

    @FredS said:
    Sorry, if you dip a problem free coin, it grades just fine.

    If you carefully and sparingly dip a "problem free coin", it will probably "grade just fine". But there's a lot of coins out there in "details" holders where an owner did not exercise the care/restraint/discretion necessary. So a general statement of "dipping does not matter on the grade" is at least misleading

    Believe what you want. Based on thousands of first hand examples, they grade just fine. If they don't, there was an underlying problem. I am not talking about leaving it in the eZest for hours. Cheers!

  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,257 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2024 12:22AM
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    The subject coin is genuine and has nice details.
    But it appears to have been mildly polished.

    Moonlight Mint
  • TeddyTalks
    TeddyTalks Posts: 67 ✭✭
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    Maybe the coin was whizzed? Definitely cleaned…I agree with the other posters, you can find a nicer coin somewhere else for sure :)

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @FredS said:

    @lsica said:

    @FredS said:
    Sorry, if you dip a problem free coin, it grades just fine.

    If you carefully and sparingly dip a "problem free coin", it will probably "grade just fine". But there's a lot of coins out there in "details" holders where an owner did not exercise the care/restraint/discretion necessary. So a general statement of "dipping does not matter on the grade" is at least misleading

    Believe what you want. Based on thousands of first hand examples, they grade just fine. If they don't, there was an underlying problem. I am not talking about leaving it in the eZest for hours. Cheers!

    Your comment actually agrees with his. You admit that overdipping is possible (eZest for hours). That's all he was saying.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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