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A 25 year hunt is finally over.

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 12, 2023 3:36PM in U.S. Coin Forum

After retuning to the hobby as an adult in 1998 I have looked for raw Cameo/DCAM proofs from 1950-1970, including 1957 nickels.

Until yesterday my hunt for 1957 Cameo nickels had been unsuccessful. Yesterday my long hunt finally finished when these two nickels graded (both PF67CAM).


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  • NorCalJackNorCalJack Posts: 587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    After retuning to the hooby as an adult in 1998 I have looked for raw Cameo/DCAM proofs from 1950-1970, including 1957 nickels.

    Until yesterday my hunt for 1957 Cameo nickels had been unsuccessful. Yesterday my long hunt finally finished when these two nickels graded (both PF67CAM).


    Congratulations. I know you have looked at thousands of sets to find these two.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!
    Congratulations 🎊

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  • maymay Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2023 5:33PM

    Where is the president of the typo club when you need him! :D
    @OAKSTAR
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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Way to go! Two beauties there

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,290 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ownerofawheatiehorde said:
    Where is the president of the typo club when you need him! :D
    @OAKSTAR

    Where? What? When?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nicely done! Congratulations!😎

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,033 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what are you still looking for in that group?

    congrats on the 57's

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's awesome!!

    Your dedication to the mission is commendable!!

    Congrats!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is an incredibly long time! Congratulations! What is your goal for the next 25 years?

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  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Boy are you patient, I can only say congrats to the victory!

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Must be very satisfying. Way to go!

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  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats! Nothing like seeing a grade you were hoping for drop.

    BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats. Well done!

  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, that is determination. I have been looking for the right Type 2 gold dollar for 5 years and I thought that was a long time. Congrats.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,390 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats. Very tough year for cameo nickels - a great accomplishment. Interesting that after 25 years that you were rewarded with two!

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Out of a mintage of about 1,247,000 1957 proof nickels the PCGS population report shows 180 Cameo coins and 2 DCAM coins.

    Both are true condition rarities.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,028 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But are they really Cameo??

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    But are they really Cameo??

    The second one certainly. Neither has a lot of frost but they do appear to be cameos. The first might just prove that even "Truviews" can be off a bit.

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  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well done... amazing dedication and coins.

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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations !
    That's got to be pretty gratifying ......

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations, on your Cameo results and kudos on you perseverance.

    Donato

    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That had to be an exciting moment when those grades popped.

    Many happy BST transactions
  • jomjom Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Thanks for your replies.

    Of course I could have easily purchased a slabbed 1957 Cameo nickel during the past 25 years; but that would deprive me of the enjoyment I receive from looking for a raw example that I can purchase for modest money and submit for grading [I found both nickels a few months ago within three weeks of each other at a local show and a local shop in a capital holder proof set and in an OGP proof set].

    OK, now THAT'S the way to do it. Nice going...sounds like a lot of fun.

    jom

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    But are they really Cameo??

    I thought about his post; and respond to it with his own words in a reply he posted to my thread on two 1961 proof half dollars. In that thread.....

    @Maywood said:
    The coins are what they are, the pictures are what they are.

    The Trueview photos of the two coins are fine, but they do not show the two coins as they really are when viewed in hand under good lighting.

    The photos do not show the black and white contrast between the fields and the devices very well. The fields are muted in the photos while in hand they are deep, black and mirrored. The devices in the photos do not show the thick white frost (the frost in the photos has grey in it).

    As far as the Cameo designation awarded by PCGS to the two coins goes, in this case I am in full agreement with our host.

    Perhaps Maywood will favor us with his own opinion on whether the two coins are really Cameo (based upon his review of the photos only?)

    As for my collecting of these Jefferson nickels go, I submitted in 2022 proof nickels from 1939-1964, SMS nickels from 1965-1967 and proof nickels from 1968-1970. For nickels dated 1950-1970 most of those I submitted warrant (IMO) Cameo designations, including many that have toning of some kind (few were completely untoned). For 1965-1970 Cameo designations were awarded. For the 1950-1964 only a couple of Cameo designations were awarded, presumably because of the toning. Since then I submitted additional nickels (mostly untoned) for grading. In a submission currently at our host are multiple 1950-1964 untoned nickels that IMO warrant a Cameo designation. If PCGS agrees that some of these nickels warrant the designation I will be able to upgrade my 1938-1964 proof nickel Registry Set and some of my Proof Registry Sets.

    Thanks again for your kind words.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on the kill, now you will need a new target are you considering business strikes or proofs again?

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful nickels - congrats.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is great news! A mighty quest has reached its conclusion, yet I am certain more adventures await you. Great work.

    Back in the 1980’s my paternal grandfather passed away. He was a very modest Jefferson nickel collector and had amassed a slew of cam Jeffs from this time period. I was very young but I remember his collection fondly. He would show me his purchases and we would spend hours looking at his nickels. He would tell me how difficult they were to find.

    He would also tell me the building he worked security in, in NYC, had a very prominent dealer within it and he would get his coins from this guy. To the dealer they had little to no value,
    but he swore to me his research showed they were far more rare than people realized.

    When he died suddenly, my aunt - my fathers only sibling, heard the news and rushed to his house, broke in the back door, and took all his coins and jewelry. Best as could be determined she sold everything to pawnbrokers for next to nothing. She probably spent the nickels as pocket change. It still breaks my heart as he wanted the coins to go to me, and that HE was THE GUY that opened numismatics for me. It’s not that I didn’t get them, but that his wishes weren’t honored.

    Anyways, treasure your pieces my friend. Trust me when I say I know how much you love and appreciate them, just like Poppy did.

    Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Out of a mintage of about 1,247,000 1957 proof nickels the PCGS population report shows 180 Cameo coins and 2 DCAM coins.

    Both are true condition rarities.

    The incentive to make a Dcam, being there's quite a jump, $200 to $4000 for a PR67Dcam. I imagine the pops are quite a bit less than what they propose.
    Oh, I'm in the market for 2nd example. (hint, hint)
    And....all that that was needed for better pics of your nice proofs.......ok, l won't say. 😉

    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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