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Is this 1876 seated dime a proof strike or just PL?

Recently purchased this 1876 Seated Liberty Dime in an ANACS MS 61 PL slab; however, it looks more like a proof to me. Does anyone have the diagnostics for the proof strike or should I send it in to PCGS? Thank you all very much.







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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2023 11:32PM

    It is not a proof - the date placement isn't correct for an 1876 proof dime.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2023 11:54PM

    There are 3 known 1876 Proof die pairs - F-101, 102 and 103.
    Your coin appears to have date position DR 1C, which is the same as F-102.
    There are other obverses which have this horizontal date position as well,
    although some of them have a high date, and yours is low.
    https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1876varpage.htm

    However, your coin also appears to have clash marks left of Ms. Liberty's chin,
    and above ME on the reverse.
    I might be wrong, though - maybe they are part of the toning?
    Usually proofs after 1857 don't have clash marks, so if they are present, that is not a good sign.

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    There are 3 known 1876 Proof die pairs - F-101, 102 and 103.
    Your coin appears to have date position DR 1C, which is the same as F-102.

    The date on the OP coin is slightly too far to the right to be a match for F-102.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,237 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The strike and the rims say business strike.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PL

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An unattractive proof-like.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    Thank you guys very much! @yosclimber, I am saving the link you posted for future reference on seated material. All the information is much appreciated.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My opinion also, business strike:
    Fun coins though!

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    RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2023 8:53PM

    Definite a business strike that is probably pl, although that doesn't mean anything since they used the same die marriage. But anyone familiar with the proof pups/and/or proof characteristics can see that it is clearly not a proof.

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2023 9:45PM

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