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Have a 1909 s vdb that looks like it is a DDO in God we it's an excellent condition

StevewarrenStevewarren Posts: 3 ✭
edited August 26, 2023 12:41AM in U.S. Coin Forum



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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can we get a clear pic of the mintmark without the reflection on the holder? It appears to be a counterfeit. I hope you didn't pay too much for it.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As stated – it’s counterfeit

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's also not a DDO. Looks like MD.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The die chip on the left wreath is a sure sign it is counterfeit.
    This reverse has been used on numerous other years of counterfeit Wheaties.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:
    It's counterfeit.

    You expressed an interest in selling coins in your other thread. With respect, you do not have the knowledge to buy and sell coins, and the coins you've shown so far have had no numismatic value or were not genuine. There are many ways to engage with the coin collecting hobby, but being a coin dealer is definitely not for you.

    To be fair, he didn't say he wanted to be a dealer, just that he wanted to sell his underweight Lincolns.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have to agree that the first thought in my head is that this is a modern counterfeit.

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:
    It's counterfeit.

    You expressed an interest in selling coins in your other thread. With respect, you do not have the knowledge to buy and sell coins, and the coins you've shown so far have had no numismatic value or were not genuine. There are many ways to engage with the coin collecting hobby, but being a coin dealer is definitely not for you.

    With all due respect, you gotta start somewhere

    Governments can print currency. Only the people can print faith in it — and they’re running low on ink.

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    I'm coming back into Indiana today I'll get new pictures and send it to you so you can review them we're wanting to send them in to PCGS and having graded but I want some more professional opinion too I'll take him out of the holders and get new pictures

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you are going to take pictures of the same coin, it won’t be necessary as it is counterfeit either
    in or out of the holder.If you are taking pictures of a different coin, then please start a new thread.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Save your money and don't bother trying to get it slabbed. Where did you get it? If you bought it from a dealer, try to return it and get your money back.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Stevewarren said:
    I'm coming back into Indiana today I'll get new pictures and send it to you so you can review them we're wanting to send them in to PCGS and having graded but I want some more professional opinion too I'll take him out of the holders and get new pictures

    Take all the images you want. It will still be a modern counterfeit and you will still get that answer from any reputable TPG (ANACS, ICG, NGC, CACG, PCGS).

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    By all means send them for grading, prove these old cogers wrong!

    bob :)
    vegas baby

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the immortal words of Paul Harvey...And that's the rest of the story.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    By all means send them for grading, prove these old cogers wrong!

    bob :)
    vegas baby

    This would be a waste of money. It's definitely counterfeit.

    Collector, occasional seller

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well nothing i can say here that hasn't been said.

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    robecrobec Posts: 7,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse appears to be the wrong one for an S-VDB..
    From the photo, the N in UNITED looks like the deep cut N, which is never found on the 1909 SVDB.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 11,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ouch - indeed a bad.

    "Memento mori !"

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    BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ugh!
    Cheat me once, shame on u, cheat me 2wice, shame on me!

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