Weird 1984 D Penny

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edited August 15, 2023 6:51AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I have noticed that this coin has a very weird appearance, as if it has partial plating. Any ideas if it is real or fake?!

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  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Weigh it. Looks like plated except in those copper areas on the obverse and reverse???. If you notice the E in WE on the obverse, the copper part is skinny and the silver part is thicker.

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  • gumby1234
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    I could be a genuine partially plated cent. Sometimes the letters are thinner at the top on normal coins as well. Heres an 84 D where the top of the E is thinner.I would say genuine.

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  • Pizzaman
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    The blank was cut out of the sheet like that, it's a partial plating error.

  • MarkKelley
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    @Pizzaman said:
    The blank was cut out of the sheet like that, it's a partial plating error.

    The blanks are plated after being punched out and being given the upset rim. It was not "cut out of the sheet like that."

  • Pizzaman
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    @MarkKelley said:

    @Pizzaman said:
    The blank was cut out of the sheet like that, it's a partial plating error.

    The blanks are plated after being punched out and being given the upset rim. It was not "cut out of the sheet like that."

    I didn't know that. Then the individual zinc planchets receive the copper plating?

  • MarkKelley
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    edited August 13, 2023 9:42AM
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    @Pizzaman said:

    @MarkKelley said:

    @Pizzaman said:
    The blank was cut out of the sheet like that, it's a partial plating error.

    The blanks are plated after being punched out and being given the upset rim. It was not "cut out of the sheet like that."

    I didn't know that. Then the individual zinc planchets receive the copper plating?

    Yes. The 1943 steel cents were produced differently. The strip was plated, then the blanks were punched out leaving the edges unplated. That is why the steel cents are so prone to rusting. Evidently the Mint learned that lesson.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @Pizzaman said:

    @MarkKelley said:

    @Pizzaman said:
    The blank was cut out of the sheet like that, it's a partial plating error.

    The blanks are plated after being punched out and being given the upset rim. It was not "cut out of the sheet like that."

    I didn't know that. Then the individual zinc planchets receive the copper plating?

    Otherwise the zinc would be exposed on the edge.

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  • Greenstang
    Greenstang Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It looks to me like it was partially plated after it left the mint.
    ( Perhaps someone trying to create a partial plated error)
    If it was done at the copper plating stage of the blank, the rim on the obverse
    would also be plated copper. This would also account for the thicker lettering on
    the plated area. Hard to tell from the photo but it would be interesting to see
    if the zinc area was higher than the copper area

  • Coin_Ambassador
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    The Zinc is lower than the copper

  • Coin_Ambassador
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    P.S. it weighs between 2.4 & 2.3 grams.

  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It just remindsme of a mini spring clamp was used to hold the coin for plating because of the even area/amount of copper on the obverse and reverse but keeping the edge exposed so it was also plated.

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  • World67
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    @2windy2fish said:
    I was expecting Abe to look like he had one extra cup of coffee….

  • Fraz
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    @2windy2fish posted:
    I was expecting Abe to look like he had one extra cup of coffee

  • Coin_Ambassador
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    LOL

  • Fraz
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    @Coin_Ambassador said:
    LOL

    Thanks, subverting a message because of a spelling error is my cheap shot.
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  • Coin_Ambassador
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    No, I mean funny photo. I didn't mean to offend you.

  • Pizzaman
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    This is the PCGS coin forum. I'm wondering why you're not sending it in for grading, you're right here.

  • Coin_Ambassador
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    Because I didn't want to spend money and then find out it's fake.

  • Fraz
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    @Coin_Ambassador said:
    No, I mean funny photo. I didn't mean to offend you.

    I’m sorry that I communicated poorly. You’re good. I appreciate your comment. Dying is easy, comedy is hard.

  • Coin_Ambassador
    Coin_Ambassador Posts: 12 ✭
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    True.

  • Pizzaman
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    @Coin_Ambassador said:
    Because I didn't want to spend money and then find out it's fake.

    Well then the bottom-line is put it back in its 2X2 and forget about it because it has issues.

  • FredWeinberg
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    Imo, It’s been de-plated, and did not leave the Mint like that

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  • Coin_Ambassador
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    O.K. , thanks for the info.

  • Pizzaman
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    . . .

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Imo, It’s been de-plated, and did not leave the Mint like that

    There's what I mean. It's inconceivable to me too how this happened at the Mint.

  • Coin_Ambassador
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    Thank you

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