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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin in question.
    The photo below is of the strike in the date position.
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    .The arrow is pointed on the last # five image. Note the vacant spot showing a copper splinter missing east traveling south in a downward direction.
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    The photo below is showing an image of two different coins (The coin in question to the right- and a different coin's # five on the left) in the reverse or a negative style photo. I have the other coin.
    ?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:
    The coin in question.
    The photo below is of the strike in the date position.
    .

    .The arrow is pointed on the last # five image. Note the vacant spot showing a copper splinter missing east traveling south in a downward direction.
    .
    The photo below is showing an image of two different coins (The coin in question to the right- and a different coin's # five on the left) in the reverse or a negative style photo. I have the other coin.
    ?

    Now do the same thing with the 6. This thread is increasingly ridiculous. Manipulated photos. Overlays. All on a corroded 1965 memorial cent that you think is a 1955 memorial cent?

    SEND IT IN.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The damage to 5s is most likely from a coin rolling machine. Sheared letters or numbers around the periphery is very common on older cents.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "around the periphery " ?
    Below is a neat, raised image, of the wheat stalk.
    Arrows show both grain and stem. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.
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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Now do the same thing with the 6. This thread is increasingly ridiculous. Manipulated photos. Overlays. All on a corroded 1965 memorial cent that you think is a 1955 memorial cent?

    SEND IT IN.

    Finally, someone is asking to show what their thinking about.
    At your service.
    The first photo looks on point showing a # six.
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    But, if you look close in the second photo, it does not support a # six. All I did was cock the image in two different directions.
    Same photo, don't forget. Five, five, all night long, if you take in all the different photos presented.
    I'm 90% there and gaining ground fast. Help ? Questions or directions should help confirm it's origin.
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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We’re doing our best. Remember, we don’t have thumbs. 😸
    ( interesting that the 5 is kinda presenting different looks). Thanks 🙏

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have many takes (photos) on the fifty five in question.
    Speaking of the in question.
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    There's not even any room at the IN position.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 1, 2023 3:30AM

    @emeraldATV said:
    "around the periphery " ?
    Below is a neat, raised image, of the wheat stalk.
    Arrows show both grain and stem. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.
    .

    If the reverse is a regular wheat cent, then wtf is the point of the whole thread? It's a corroded 1955 wheat cent. What was that whole story about preparing new dies for the 1959 change?

    At least your a cheap date. Throw a pile of damaged corroded coins on the table and you'll amuse yourself all night.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 1, 2023 4:48AM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @emeraldATV said:
    "around the periphery " ?
    Below is a neat, raised image, of the wheat stalk.
    Arrows show both grain and stem. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.
    .

    If the reverse is a regular wheat cent, then wtf is the point of the whole thread? It's a corroded 1955 wheat cent. What was that whole story about preparing new dies for the 1959 change?

    At least your a cheap date. Throw a pile of damaged corroded coins on the table and you'll amuse yourself all night.

    Dang JM
    Easy on Emeraldtv. Name calling “ your a cheap date”. I believe your advice is move on if you don’t like it. Don’t even open it. I expect better from you. I believe you pontificate on each to their own and especially with collecting. Thanks 🙏

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 1, 2023 8:13AM

    @Jzyskowski1 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @emeraldATV said:
    "around the periphery " ?
    Below is a neat, raised image, of the wheat stalk.
    Arrows show both grain and stem. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.
    .

    If the reverse is a regular wheat cent, then wtf is the point of the whole thread? It's a corroded 1955 wheat cent. What was that whole story about preparing new dies for the 1959 change?

    At least your a cheap date. Throw a pile of damaged corroded coins on the table and you'll amuse yourself all night.

    Dang JM
    Easy on Emeraldtv. Name calling “ your a cheap date”. I believe your advice is move on if you don’t like it. Don’t even open it. I expect better from you. I believe you pontificate on each to their own and especially with collecting. Thanks 🙏

    You're a cheap date is hardly an insult. It just means you can entertain him for not a lot of money.

    My frustration is that the OP went on about the creation of new dies etc and never showed the reverse. It made it seem like he thought this was a mule. Then all of a sudden, his corroded cent had a normal wheat reverse.

    So, you tell me, what is this thread actually about?

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OP. Pointing out a 55 penny that he feels is interesting. Can’t get more collector than that.

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    OP. Pointing out a 55 penny that he feels is interesting. Can’t get more collector than that.

    That evades the question. The original post was:

    "A good place to start
    In 1952, ...the Mint considered replacing the Lincoln cent with a new design by Mint Chief Engraver Gilroy Roberts, Several thousand 1955 pieces were struck with a doubled die, and display doubling of the date. The Mint was aware of the pieces, and knew ................................they were somewhere within a large production lot, but opted to release them rather than destroy the entire lot. ...................... The variety did not become widely known until several years later.
    The redesign came as a complete surprise, as word of the proposal had not been leaked. The coin was officially released on February 12, 1959, the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's birth, .....................................
    Although, some pieces entered circulation early."

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 1, 2023 6:40AM

    Em stays cool when he does not read replies that suit him.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Now do the same thing with the 6. This thread is increasingly ridiculous. Manipulated photos. Overlays. All on a corroded 1965 memorial cent that you think is a 1955 memorial cent?

    SEND IT IN.

    Finally, someone is asking to show what their thinking about.
    At your service.
    The first photo looks on point showing a # six.
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    .
    But, if you look close in the second photo, it does not support a # six. All I did was cock the image in two different directions.
    Same photo, don't forget. Five, five, all night long, if you take in all the different photos presented.
    I'm 90% there and gaining ground fast. Help ? Questions or directions should help confirm it's origin.

    Fine. It's a corroded 55. What is supposed to be so interesting about it?

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Woo, woo, hold up. This thread is carrying a theory that, hopefully, is very much interesting, and with a cool way to confirm
    the vility of this 55 date. That's where you folks come in. If you are interested.
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    In 1952, ...the Mint considered replacing the Lincoln cent with a new design.
    1953 ? zzzzzzz !
    1954 ? zzzzzzz !
    Several thousand, 1955 double die, pieces were struck and released by mistake, with full knowledge of the powers at be.
    1956 ? zzzzzzz!
    1957 ? zzzzzzz!
    1958 - ? The redesign came as a complete surprise, as word of the proposal (Production)) had not been leaked.
    The coin was officially released on February 12, 1959, the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's birth.
    .........................................Although, some pieces entered circulation early.......................................

    IF YOUR READING THIS, YOUR THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS or CAN YOU SHOW ME THIS SPOT another way etc...
    The point is "What's your take on the date". Even with a % of which way.
    I hate typing
    I'll be back !

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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Fine. It's a corroded 55. What is supposed to be so interesting about it?

    Aha,
    This coin is not a corroded coin.
    On the other hand, maybe, that was the cause of the press spitting it out," after it was struck", (?) "inspected and tossed" (?)
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    The damage on the obverse has structure. 98% sure is where I'm at.
    E-PlURIBUS-UNUM is also in play. Just waiting for that best photo.
    I'll be back

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2023 1:29AM

    The convergence of Emerald and Slick. :o

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    The Convergence ?

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So,
    Never even thought about this ,but as I've been tracking down the aspects of this coin, I stumbled onto something.
    I'm not sure how to explain it yet, lets just say the camera program's feature's can be used as a press strike.
    Never mind.
    THIS PHOTO WAS MADE UP OF JUST TWO PHOTO"S (same photo also) . With two different transparent values.
    I made it, because it looked cool while exploring and is not to confuse or imply anything.
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    I lined up the wheat stalks and this is the result.
    I'M GETTING SLEEEEEEPY... on a count of three SLEEP !
    Ya right.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In 1952, ...the Mint considered replacing the Lincoln cent with a new design.
    1953 ... prep for the new design's welcome, allowing....
    1954 ...time to review and examine, with a detailed evaluation.
    The 1955 double die,
    Several thousand, pieces were struck and released by mistake, with full knowledge by the mint.
    Could this have been a commemorative act as a "memorial,"or to mark an event ? look at the 1969 S (pace) ddo cent?
    1958 - ? The redesign came as a complete surprise, as word of the proposal (Production)) had not been leaked.
    The coin was officially released on February 12, 1959, the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's birth.
    .........................................Although, some pieces entered circulation early.....................................
    The reverse image photo's are way over due and I apologize. :o
    I'll be back

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    I'm Just warming up a bit, sit back and relax,

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A turtle and a colonial American?

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could there be a colonial turtle?
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    I don't think one could survive over two hundred years.
    said the lion king.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    The reverse of the coin in question with some micro·scop·ic view.'s. (above)
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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @emeraldATV said:
    Funny thing is this coin was found in a roll at my dinner table.
    I'm just making sure I'm not talking out my butt so to say.
    Many photo's were produced and many more are to follow. Also using three PC's to show all angles and their images.
    This coin is very interesting, or better yet, very challenging as all points are still a go in my theory.
    It's like waiting for that snow lepeard, to show it's self to the camera.
    I'm picky when it comes to, how it reads and it's graphic history.
    I'll let you know when and if I think I'm wrong. I'm easy that way.
    All photo's are from this coin and no help from me other than filtering.
    To be contuined

    @emeraldATV said:
    Funny thing is this coin was found in a roll at my dinner table.
    I'm just making sure I'm not talking out my butt so to say.
    Many photo's were produced and many more are to follow. Also using three PC's to show all angles and their images.
    This coin is very interesting, or better yet, very challenging as all points are still a go in my theory.
    It's like waiting for that snow lepeard, to show it's self to the camera.
    I'm picky when it comes to, how it reads and it's graphic history.
    I'll let you know when and if I think I'm wrong. I'm easy that way.
    All photo's are from this coin and no help from me other than filtering.
    To be contuined

    No offense, but no one has any idea what your theory is...

    You never know. His theory might well dovetail with the mafia and Omega $20's -- I mean who's to say! (Man I miss those threads from a few years back.)

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:
    The first photo is a 100% opaque image. Some of the red stars are sandwiched between the two photos, (template and layover) to show no adjustments of the images and how transparent the overlay is laying not to cover any anomaly's.
    Black lines were also placed on top of the overlay to show the overlay's shape.
    Note the rim and the # one fall exactly in place like a piece in a puzzle.
    100% opaque
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    The view as a negative
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    This coin is off the charts, with more to follow.

    Something's off the charts all right, but then, I never quite saw all the images in constellations either. Perhaps I'm not partaking of the right substances.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This Coin is, without a doubt a 1955 Lincoln Cent, with the wrong reverse.
    I'm still asking for photographic directions so you can show me why the upper statement could be incorrect.
    Or is it make ready for the press ?
    Is the die markers on the reverse usefull.
    This was really fun and the research photo's have their own flash drive as it's to much memory in my PC.
    I'll be back

  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭

    You have convinced me with your photos.

    The coin in question is absolutely a damaged 1965 Lincoln memorial cent.

    Joe.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm starting to miss Slick

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I'm starting to miss Slick

    I didn't realize that he'd finally gotten the hammer. Looks like it happened two days ago, right after they shut down his latest thread.

    He sure worked hard for it.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't say I've seen, or even read the adventures of ...who ?
    Although, I could have, but making no impression here.
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    Remember the obverse of the coin's folded over rim ? E PLURIBUS UN....UM, does, make it's impression.
    The trick is to show this in a way (with photo's) that I'm satisfied.
    The dried grease or crud was forced to the outer wall of the strike like a centrafuse.
    Can't means won't ?
    I think I can, soon.
    Keep in mind, I'm hardly working,
    because it's no stress fun.

  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:
    I can't say I've seen, or even read the adventures of ...who ?
    Although, I could have, but making no impression here.
    .
    Remember the obverse of the coin's folded over rim ? E PLURIBUS UN....UM, does, make it's impression.
    The trick is to show this in a way (with photo's) that I'm satisfied.
    The dried grease or crud was forced to the outer wall of the strike like a centrafuse.
    Can't means won't ?
    I think I can, soon.
    Keep in mind, I'm hardly working,
    because it's no stress fun.

    Why is it that random Lincoln cents often are the ones that result in these kind of crazy posts. I get it a little bit, billions of coins, most of which are damaged from circulation, but I just really understand how great coins are posted and get 10 replies, and “poem writing” gets 80. Emerald, I like your enthusiasm, I frankly liked slicks enthusiasm as well, but it ended there with silly theories about extremely common coins. (Please anyone let me know if I’m missing something here)

    You are an active member of the group. You must realize that none of your theories are correct, and there are literally millions of coins made from the same die as anything you have posted, showing none of the “issues” you mention.

    If you are having fun and enjoying yourself, I think that is great. But if you are believing a theory about damaged coins being something special, support will wain for you, especially as it seems you are the new Slick!

    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NewEnglandRarities said:

    @emeraldATV said:
    I can't say I've seen, or even read the adventures of ...who ?
    Although, I could have, but making no impression here.
    .
    Remember the obverse of the coin's folded over rim ? E PLURIBUS UN....UM, does, make it's impression.
    The trick is to show this in a way (with photo's) that I'm satisfied.
    The dried grease or crud was forced to the outer wall of the strike like a centrafuse.
    Can't means won't ?
    I think I can, soon.
    Keep in mind, I'm hardly working,
    because it's no stress fun.

    Why is it that random Lincoln cents often are the ones that result in these kind of crazy posts. I get it a little bit, billions of coins, most of which are damaged from circulation, but I just really understand how great coins are posted and get 10 replies, and “poem writing” gets 80. Emerald, I like your enthusiasm, I frankly liked slicks enthusiasm as well, but it ended there with silly theories about extremely common coins. (Please anyone let me know if I’m missing something here)

    You are an active member of the group. You must realize that none of your theories are correct, and there are literally millions of coins made from the same die as anything you have posted, showing none of the “issues” you mention.

    If you are having fun and enjoying yourself, I think that is great. But if you are believing a theory about damaged coins being something special, support will wain for you, especially as it seems you are the new Slick!

    Actually Slick was the new Emerald. Emerald was at this long before slick showed up.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sorry, but Mr Emerald is in a conference at this time and
    must not be disturbed.
    ;)

  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭

    Actually Slick was the new Emerald. Emerald was at this long before slick showed up.

    Good point!!

    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2023 11:36PM

    I think I had a senior moment (55 and over) as this image of the fifth (five) escaped my camera's field of vision.
    .

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2023 11:44PM

    See an S Seinore ?
    .

    Thanks essay.

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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2023 1:51AM

    Pssst !
    Want to play, catch the lazer dot game, with us ?
    .

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:
    Pssst !
    Want to play, catch the lazer dot game, with us ?
    .

    Vault Box. CAC. CACG

    Dominus. Victor. Alpha.

    Hubris. Hubris.

    Rumplestiltskin.

    Hut! Hut! Hut!

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And the kick is up ...Oh no,
    the ball brushed the flag on top of the goal post and pulled it out of the post.
    Now what ? Bill Bergey is livid on the side lines about something and he's not even playing.
    O-ma-ha.

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Em, I hope that you add one of your celeb wheaties to the folder!

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Fraz said:
    Em, I hope that you add one of your celeb wheaties to the folder!

    I thought of this just now maybe because we always use this when asking about a job that's running on press.
    Supv- "When will you be finished"?
    Pressman- "When I am done"!
    lol
    If this coin's reverse is the wrong design for a 1955 Lincoln Cent,?
    Hold on too your drink ! lol
    Are we getting a (peek-in-eese) peek at these die proofing, of the new 1959 design, with a struck obverse date of 1955 ?
    Keep an open mind - but don't let your brains fall out, And you gotta just laugh Ready ?
    .


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    Now peek at those fives. ( I hope you have been paying attention)


    .

    All photo's are taken from the reverse strike of the coin in question. Cool ! Bytheway, I never touched any of them.

  • BANNEDBANNED Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You're grounded.


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