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Hmmm. Getting Antsy about my unopened. Advise appreciated!

I love my unopened, though pails in comparison to a lot of y’all; but I’m getting antsy. Here’s what I have unopened:
1981 topps baseball vending case
1981 Topps baseball wax box
1986 topps baseball vending case
1986 topps baseball wax case (early serial numbered too, from what I’ve ascertained).
I want to rip it all to shreds!!!
Well, I want to go through my 81 vending case, see if I could put together a really nice, top-notch batch of cards to sub into PSA.
Or would I have a better shot at going through my 86’s?
I know I’d have To be EXTREMELY selective, but knowing my luck an unopened 81 vending bb case would go for like 25k or something in 5 years and I’d end up with one gem mint 10 card of pete LaCock or something. Thoughts? Fight the urge, or embrace it?!

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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭

    Fight it. :)

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    19591959 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭

    Leave them unopened. There are millions of 81 and 86's out there that are nice but not graded and probably won't be at todays prices or future prices. There are not a lot of unopened cases of 81 and mabe a little more 86's.

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    sjjs28sjjs28 Posts: 445 ✭✭✭✭

    I have some 86 FASC Rack boxes (i like retaining black bordered cards....)
    But I've never heard about the allure of early serial numbered cards in the 86 set.
    What makes them desirable?

    Steve Saldutti
    sjjs28@comcast.net
    Collector of 1964 Topps Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
    Registered Sets: 1964 Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
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    handymanhandyman Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rip and see

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    Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2022 6:24PM

    I busted two rack cases of 81's back in 2007 - didn't hit any (ZERO) HOF 10's. They were tough before the standards got tougher.

    Keep them sealed. (and I love to rip too)

    37 1 09192569 MINT 9 1981 Topps 32 Ken Oberkfell Card
    38 1 09192570 MINT 9 1981 Topps 91 Tim Stoddard Card
    39 1 09192571 MINT 9 1981 Topps 100 Rod Carew Card
    40 1 09192572 MINT 9 1981 Topps 108 Bruce Benedict Card
    41 1 09192573 MINT 9 1981 Topps 137 Hosken Powell Card
    42 1 09192574 MINT 9 1981 Topps 139 Oscar Gamble Card
    43 1 09192575 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 156 Bob McClure Card
    44 1 09192576 MINT 9 1981 Topps 173 Bump Wills Card
    45 1 09192577 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1981 Topps 261 Rickey Henderson Card
    46 1 09192578 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card
    47 1 09192579 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card
    48 1 09192580 MINT 9 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card
    49 1 09192581 MINT 9 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card
    50 1 09192582 MINT 9 1981 Topps 271 Bill Castro Card
    51 1 09192583 MINT 9 1981 Topps 293 Charlie Lea Card
    52 1 09192584 MINT 9 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
    53 1 09192585 MINT 9 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
    54 1 09192586 MINT 9 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
    55 1 09192587 MINT 9 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
    56 1 09192588 MINT 9 1981 Topps 347 Harold Baines Card
    57 1 09192589 MINT 9 1981 Topps 365 Graig Nettles Card
    58 1 09192590 MINT 9 1981 Topps 365 Graig Nettles Card
    59 1 09192591 MINT 9 1981 Topps 387 Phil Niekro Card
    60 1 09192592 MINT 9 1981 Topps 402 N.L. Championships Phil. Squeak Past Astros Card
    61 1 09192593 MINT 9 1981 Topps 402 N.L. Championships Phil. Squeak Past Astros Card
    62 1 09192594 MINT 9 1981 Topps 468 Johnny Wockenfuss Card
    63 1 09192595 MINT 9 1981 Topps 478 Juan Eichelberger Card
    64 1 09192596 MINT 9 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    65 1 09192597 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    66 1 09192598 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    67 1 09192599 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    68 1 09192600 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    69 1 09192601 MINT 9 1981 Topps 482 Jim Gantner Card
    70 1 09192602 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 515 Robin Yount Card
    71 1 09192603 MINT 9 1981 Topps 519 John Tamargo Card
    72 1 09192604 MINT 9 1981 Topps 519 John Tamargo Card
    73 1 09192605 MINT 9 1981 Topps 540 Mike Schmidt Card
    74 1 09192606 MINT 9 1981 Topps 540 Mike Schmidt Card
    75 1 09192607 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 582 Gaylord Perry Card
    76 1 09192608 MINT 9 1981 Topps 597 Rafael Landestoy Card
    77 1 09192609 MINT 9 1981 Topps 597 Rafael Landestoy Card
    78 1 09192610 MINT 9 1981 Topps 620 Dennis Eckersley Card
    79 1 09192611 MINT 9 1981 Topps 636 Al Hrabosky Card
    80 1 09192612 MINT 9 1981 Topps 636 Al Hrabosky Card
    81 1 09192613 MINT 9 1981 Topps 638 Checklist 606-726 Card
    82 1 09192614 MINT 9 1981 Topps 647 Dick Drago Card
    83 1 09192615 MINT 9 1981 Topps 647 Dick Drago Card
    84 1 09192616 MINT 9 1981 Topps 690 Bob Watson Card
    85 1 09192617 MINT 9 1981 Topps 710 Ron LeFlore Card
    86 1 09192618 MINT 9 1981 Topps 710 Ron LeFlore Card
    87 1 09192619 MINT 9 1981 Topps 715 Bill Madlock Card
    88 1 09192620 MINT 9 1981 Topps 725 Steve Rogers Card

    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭

    @Bosox1976 said:
    I busted two rack cases of 81's back in 2007 - didn't hit any (ZERO) HOF 10's. They were tough before the standards got tougher.

    Keep them sealed. (and I love to rip too)

    37 1 09192569 MINT 9 1981 Topps 32 Ken Oberkfell Card
    38 1 09192570 MINT 9 1981 Topps 91 Tim Stoddard Card
    39 1 09192571 MINT 9 1981 Topps 100 Rod Carew Card
    40 1 09192572 MINT 9 1981 Topps 108 Bruce Benedict Card
    41 1 09192573 MINT 9 1981 Topps 137 Hosken Powell Card
    42 1 09192574 MINT 9 1981 Topps 139 Oscar Gamble Card
    43 1 09192575 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 156 Bob McClure Card
    44 1 09192576 MINT 9 1981 Topps 173 Bump Wills Card
    45 1 09192577 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1981 Topps 261 Rickey Henderson Card
    46 1 09192578 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card
    47 1 09192579 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card
    48 1 09192580 MINT 9 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card
    49 1 09192581 MINT 9 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card
    50 1 09192582 MINT 9 1981 Topps 271 Bill Castro Card
    51 1 09192583 MINT 9 1981 Topps 293 Charlie Lea Card
    52 1 09192584 MINT 9 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
    53 1 09192585 MINT 9 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
    54 1 09192586 MINT 9 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
    55 1 09192587 MINT 9 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
    56 1 09192588 MINT 9 1981 Topps 347 Harold Baines Card
    57 1 09192589 MINT 9 1981 Topps 365 Graig Nettles Card
    58 1 09192590 MINT 9 1981 Topps 365 Graig Nettles Card
    59 1 09192591 MINT 9 1981 Topps 387 Phil Niekro Card
    60 1 09192592 MINT 9 1981 Topps 402 N.L. Championships Phil. Squeak Past Astros Card
    61 1 09192593 MINT 9 1981 Topps 402 N.L. Championships Phil. Squeak Past Astros Card
    62 1 09192594 MINT 9 1981 Topps 468 Johnny Wockenfuss Card
    63 1 09192595 MINT 9 1981 Topps 478 Juan Eichelberger Card
    64 1 09192596 MINT 9 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    65 1 09192597 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    66 1 09192598 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    67 1 09192599 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    68 1 09192600 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
    69 1 09192601 MINT 9 1981 Topps 482 Jim Gantner Card
    70 1 09192602 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 515 Robin Yount Card
    71 1 09192603 MINT 9 1981 Topps 519 John Tamargo Card
    72 1 09192604 MINT 9 1981 Topps 519 John Tamargo Card
    73 1 09192605 MINT 9 1981 Topps 540 Mike Schmidt Card
    74 1 09192606 MINT 9 1981 Topps 540 Mike Schmidt Card
    75 1 09192607 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 582 Gaylord Perry Card
    76 1 09192608 MINT 9 1981 Topps 597 Rafael Landestoy Card
    77 1 09192609 MINT 9 1981 Topps 597 Rafael Landestoy Card
    78 1 09192610 MINT 9 1981 Topps 620 Dennis Eckersley Card
    79 1 09192611 MINT 9 1981 Topps 636 Al Hrabosky Card
    80 1 09192612 MINT 9 1981 Topps 636 Al Hrabosky Card
    81 1 09192613 MINT 9 1981 Topps 638 Checklist 606-726 Card
    82 1 09192614 MINT 9 1981 Topps 647 Dick Drago Card
    83 1 09192615 MINT 9 1981 Topps 647 Dick Drago Card
    84 1 09192616 MINT 9 1981 Topps 690 Bob Watson Card
    85 1 09192617 MINT 9 1981 Topps 710 Ron LeFlore Card
    86 1 09192618 MINT 9 1981 Topps 710 Ron LeFlore Card
    87 1 09192619 MINT 9 1981 Topps 715 Bill Madlock Card
    88 1 09192620 MINT 9 1981 Topps 725 Steve Rogers Card

    Completely agree. I bought eight boxes of 81s around the same time and didn't get a single 10 either. Tons of 9s but zero 10s.

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    handymanhandyman Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obviously dont rip.
    But that first PSA 10 fernado would be 100,000+ card I think

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    RoflesRofles Posts: 752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @handyman said:
    Obviously dont rip.
    But that first PSA 10 fernado would be 100,000+ card I think

    Ugh.. probably the biggest temptation right there!

    @Bosox1976
    @bobbybakeriv

    Oof! That’s tough! How recent is that submission?

    @sjjs28 said:
    I have some 86 FASC Rack boxes (i like retaining black bordered cards....)
    But I've never heard about the allure of early serial numbered cards in the 86 set.
    What makes them desirable?

    I thought there was some Roger Clemens cards and others that have a blue streak in the top left/right that may have came from earlier print runs? 🤷‍♂️

    Maybe just the wax box… 😖

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    Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Fernando’s in that sub were as perfect as could be. Sold them for peanuts back then. Always regretted not trying them a few times.

    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    19591959 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭

    All of the Fernandos I have seen, If the front is dead centered the back is way , way, off centered dropping them from 10 to 9. I do not think these new graders would give a 10 the way they are grading cards now. But I hope I'm wrong.

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    threeofsixthreeofsix Posts: 565 ✭✭✭✭

    Like the Beatles said…

    Let It Be!

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
    Live long, and prosper.
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    balco758balco758 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Go out a buy a few 81 vending boxes for 400 and rip those. Leave the case as is!

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    handymanhandyman Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Or wrap your case and open just a few. But for sure don’t rip an entire one by yourself.

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    RoflesRofles Posts: 752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the encouragement to keep the vending case intact! I will do that! I picked up the fasc 89 fleer rack box from last weeks BBCE sale, and im two rack packs in! Should hold me over for a while lol

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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rofles said:
    Thanks for the encouragement to keep the vending case intact! I will do that! I picked up the fasc 89 fleer rack box from last weeks BBCE sale, and im two rack packs in! Should hold me over for a while lol

    Addict, lol.

    Good luck on the 89.

    Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.

    Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
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    Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    Rip dat muvva

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    It must be extremely difficult to collect unopened when you have a strong desire to rip.

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    BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @threeofsix said:
    Like the Beatles said…

    Let It Be!

    They also said Looking Through a Glass Onion, but that's for another thread.

    Daniel
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    BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you want to lose your desire to rip, go buy a single wax box, rip that, send them in for grading and see what grades you get back. That’ll eliminate any need to have raw cards for grading.

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    Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How are the fleer hits? A good rip?

    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    thedutymon11thedutymon11 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭✭

    I would Advise you with this little bit of Advice, Don't RIP!

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

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    Historicalwood71Historicalwood71 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭

    Just rip it! Rip it good!!! When a pack is held too long .. you must rip it ... And when the desire is too strong... You must rip it. Now rip it .... Do it straight.... Go fo it .... It's not to late.... To rip it ..... Rip it good!

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    RoflesRofles Posts: 752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bosox1976 said:
    How are the fleer hits? A good rip?

    Not bad! Ripken with a black box and Randy Johnson made an appearance! It was a lot of fun! Feeling good now! Lol

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    @Rofles said:

    @Bosox1976 said:
    How are the fleer hits? A good rip?

    Not bad! Ripken with a black box and Randy Johnson made an appearance! It was a lot of fun! Feeling good now! Lol

    No Griffey?? I opened half of mine and no Griffey either…

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    BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1959 said:
    All of the Fernandos I have seen, If the front is dead centered the back is way , way, off centered dropping them from 10 to 9. I do not think these new graders would give a 10 the way they are grading cards now. But I hope I'm wrong.

    I have at least 6 exactly like this. Dead center on the front and almost off the edge on the back. That card is tough just to get as a 9.

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    dictoresnodictoresno Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if you had vending boxes, id say rip. but since you have cases....leave them be. and as for the wax, leave them as well.

    myslabs.to/smzcards

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