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Care to GTG on a Draped Bust Quarter? "Grade Revealed"

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 3, 2021 4:35AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I'll post the grade tomorrow evening :)

Browning 1 Variety struck with freshly greased dies.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG10

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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭✭✭

    worn?

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll take a flyer on 12 with a weak strike.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    8

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    EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2021 8:21AM

    The reverse makes my Spidey senses tingle . I’ll go out on a limb and say VG Det Net G.

    Edited to add: So are those reverse hairlines on the coin or the slab?

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭✭✭

    G6

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    scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wipey VG

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG08

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    6

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,093 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing VG8.
    Strange that it looks to have nice old patina, but at the same time a lot of
    hairlines. Imaging? Surface issues on the plastic? Nicer in hand?

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    fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strike plays a big role. Possibly a F12

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    how would you know if the die was freshly greased if the coin is worn to vg

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    SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Environmental damaged
    maximum G4

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jughead1893 said:
    how would you know if the die was freshly greased if the coin is worn to vg

    There's still die grease present around the stars, lettering, date, and the perimeter of Miss Liberty on the obverse. Kind of like pull-away toning you see on high grade toned examples that's just die grease that was pushed beyond the letters, stars, or numbers. So if any grease is present those areas will not tone. I've seen it on a few 1805's as that was the first major production date for quarters exceeding a few thousand to over 100K.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2021 7:24PM

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    I'm guessing VG8.
    Strange that it looks to have nice old patina, but at the same time a lot of
    hairlines. Imaging? Surface issues on the plastic? Nicer in hand?

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll give it a 15

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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fine

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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go F12 and I like it.

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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    6

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say VG10... interesting piece!

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @sparky64 said:

    Ironically I picked up my first draped bust quarter this weekend.

    Great time to buy as PCGS values on some collector grades rose again yesterday.

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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not experienced with early coin grading but i say G6

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    manlye1manlye1 Posts: 238 ✭✭✭

    VG10

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1946Hamm1946Hamm Posts: 817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    10-12

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    MrBlusterMrBluster Posts: 380 ✭✭✭

    F 12

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG10?

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F12 with a weak strike?

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG

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    SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So, what was the grade?

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 30, 2021 10:23AM

    I’m having second thoughts about my guess. In the parts that are visible, there is a lot of detail in the shield and feathers. Did it make it into a VF20 holder?

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I figure it was graded on details not giving consideration to strike, grease, or otherwise. If concessions were made I would grade it higher than G6.

    @cameonut2011 said:
    I’m having second thoughts about my guess. In the parts that are visible, there is a lot of detail in the shield and feathers. Did it make it into a VF20 holder?

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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd say about VG9 or so all things considered

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go with 12.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tomorrow evening has come and gone, and the cat is getting anxious.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 1, 2021 2:22PM

    @Smudge said:
    Tomorrow evening has come and gone, and the cat is getting anxious.

    I PM'd him this morning. He's under the weather, but said he'll try to post it this evening.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry for making y'all wait so long for the answer as this is in a newer pronged PCGS G-06 holder.

    The obverse has solid Fine 12 details and the reverse shield is weakly stuck.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Touche! :) That was a tough one!

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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't believe I guessed the grade correctly!

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 3, 2021 2:32PM

    DELETED

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it. Nice coin. Admittedly I attributed most loss of design detail to a weak strike.

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