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Usps express to change terms of guarantee

logger7logger7 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 20, 2021 6:48PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I spoke with my local postmaster today who notified me that this weekend Usps would change its express times and only guarantee next day delivery without specific times guaranteed such as 1030am, 12 noon or 3pm; he said that in a conference call they decided to just make it next day no specific times.
https://www.postaltimes.com/postalnews/priority-mail-express-delivery-times-to-change-effective-may-23-2021/#:~:text=The Postal Service has changed,was available for a fee.

Have others had their regular priorities traveling normally now?

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    tokenprotokenpro Posts: 942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The last two USPS express sent to me last week were both a day late -- notified the senders to file for refunds.

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    truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    @tokenpro said:
    The last two USPS express sent to me last week were both a day late -- notified the senders to file for refunds.

    Why, tax payers have to foo the bill. who cares if it is slightly late.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BipolarExpress said:
    USPS is self-supporting via postage revenue, it receives no taxpayer funds.

    The second part is true, not so much the "self-supporting" part...

    "The Postal Service receives no direct taxpayer funds. It relies on revenues from stamps and other service fees."

    "The USPS has operated at a loss since 2007. From 2008 to 2018, it reported $69 billion in losses. For the 2019 fiscal year, it lost $8.8 billion on $71.1 billion of operating revenue."

    From "How is the U.S. Postal Service governed and funded" here:

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/08/26/how-is-the-u-s-postal-service-governed-and-funded/

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    And that annual operating loss resulted from a law passed by Congress (please see my previous rant) that requires USPS to prefund employee benefits costs 75 years in advance, creating the financial burden of making the post office set aside money for future employees, some of whom (factoring in average life expectancy) may not have been born yet.

    I take your point about “self-supporting”, though they were prior to 2007.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,173 ✭✭✭✭✭

    where does it come up with 8.8b to cover the loss?

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have not been able to get USPS to refund an express shipment in months.

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    AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had two over night Express packages arrive late and our tiny Post Office gave me a bundle of credits for my next shipments. As for complaining about the USPS let's do away with it and turn everything over to FedEx or UPS. Sound like a good idea?

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    @jmlanzaf said:
    You do know that the similar requirements apply to all private businesses? GM and Ford also have to make sure they fully fund their retirement funds. The only difference is duration with USPS. It is only GOVERNMENT pensions that are allowed to be unfunded.

    That was my point. Please provide another example of any business, public or private, with similar advance benefit funding requirements.

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    I read the article, but if you believe the 2006 legislation was just typical benefit funding, both for the dollar amount/number of years and limited timeframe the PO was given to set aside the money, I’m not sure what else to tell you.

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    labloverlablover Posts: 3,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, that's wonderful to know. I just had a 3 Day Priority that left Florida to California take 25 days to arrive. Guess their improving delivery.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There were a lot of moves this week to cover usps retirees under Medicare and other reforms to cut costs. They could offer services at parity with FedEx and Ups and charge parcel fees on "flat" mailers used for shipping 3 dimensional objects like coins. I don't understand why they did not do that a long time ago. The increases combined with meeting all their obligations in having tracking and service as good as FedEx would allow them to do a lot better.

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    fathomfathom Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They raise rates they lose out to competition and lose more money.

    They are between a rock and a hard place. Law requires they deliver to money losing locations in timbukthree,

    Give it a rest. I have no problems here in the Northwest with deliveries all over the US and we are considered south Alaska.

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    AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22, 2021 5:35AM

    @fathom said:
    They raise rates they lose out to competition and lose more money.

    They are between a rock and a hard place. Law requires they deliver to money losing locations in timbukthree,

    Give it a rest. I have no problems here in the Northwest with deliveries all over the US and we are considered south Alaska.

    And I live here in a very small town in Central Pennsylvania and have not heard of any problems. I sent a package of coins to Maine. Left my hands at 1:00pm on Thursday and arrived in Concord at 12:00 noon on Friday Priority Mail Flat Rate Box. perhaps the problems are local oriented?

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @logger7 said:
    There were a lot of moves this week to cover usps retirees under Medicare and other reforms to cut costs. They could offer services at parity with FedEx and Ups and charge parcel fees on "flat" mailers used for shipping 3 dimensional objects like coins. I don't understand why they did not do that a long time ago. The increases combined with meeting all their obligations in having tracking and service as good as FedEx would allow them to do a lot better.

    Well, partly I don't think the retirees wanted a lower level of health care benefits.

    The UAW agreed to a VEBA with the automakers to help them control costs on the health care side. Good luck to future retirees.

    Medicare is an excellent program. I know enough people who had life threatening events that wiped out their retirement savings, many hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs which Medicare would have covered. Blue collar service workers should be happy for 100% healthcare coverage that most people in the US don't get. We are about the only developed country without universal healthcare.

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    fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 943 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @BipolarExpress said:
    And that annual operating loss resulted from a law passed by Congress (please see my previous rant) that requires USPS to prefund employee benefits costs 75 years in advance, creating the financial burden of making the post office set aside money for future employees, some of whom (factoring in average life expectancy) may not have been born yet.

    I take your point about “self-supporting”, though they were prior to 2007.

    You do know that the similar requirements apply to all private businesses? GM and Ford also have to make sure they fully fund their retirement funds. The only difference is duration with USPS. It is only GOVERNMENT pensions that are allowed to be unfunded.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/2019/05/13/why-aoc-is-mostly-wrong-about-post-office-pensions-an-explainer/amp/

    Boy then you have to wonder why one sided spending bills usually end up shoring up union pension funds.

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    AuldFartteAuldFartte Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf provided excellent articles explaining the entire situation. I know some of us are upset with delivery times, myself included. Years ago, every time I felt like slamming USPS, I started saying to myself, "Where else can you hand a guy $0.55 (or whatever the price was at the time) and he would deliver a letter clear across the country?"

    I know. Somewhat off-topic. My apologies.

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @trueblood said:
    Why, tax payers have to foo the bill. who cares if it is slightly late.

    USPS is a government-owned private corporation - they get no government subsidy. In fact they are the only company in the US required by law (amendment being discussed in Congress) to fully pre-fund retirement expenses.

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