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What is this sticking out of the feather on my Indian Cent?

JimsokayJimsokay Posts: 119 ✭✭✭
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I did not notice it till I took a snapshot of it. What caused that? I'm sure the value just jumped a dollar or lost a dollar. ;)

TIA!

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    JimsokayJimsokay Posts: 119 ✭✭✭

    Oops, Pointing towards the word "OF"...

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 7,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s the rare arrow shaft variety 😉

    Mr_Spud

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Struck from a gouged obverse die?

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    robecrobec Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It could be a clash. The arrow heads from the reverse are in the area.

    - Bob -

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe a die gouge. It looks "as struck" and it looks raised...

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it raised? It appears to be but sometimes photos cause optical illusions.

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    JimsokayJimsokay Posts: 119 ✭✭✭

    @robec said:
    It could be a clash. The arrow heads from the reverse are in the area.

    Not sure what that means but here’s the back.

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    JimsokayJimsokay Posts: 119 ✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:
    Is it raised? It appears to be but sometimes photos cause optical illusions.

    Yes it’s raised. I know what you mean as on large cents my eyes at first see “ONE CENT” as an impression. :)

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it's clashed, it won't be raised.

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it's raised then it's a die gouge.

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    robecrobec Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jimsokay said:

    @robec said:
    It could be a clash. The arrow heads from the reverse are in the area.

    Not sure what that means but here’s the back.

    It looks like it isn't a clash. The arrows would just miss the spot where your raised area is.
    The shape of your raised object looked like it might be and arrow.

    Here is an overlay showing where the arrows would be if it were a clash.

    - Bob -

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote die gouge.

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    MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking die gouge as well.

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    robecrobec Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keyman64 said:
    I vote die gouge.

    I agree, die gouge.

    - Bob -

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    JimsokayJimsokay Posts: 119 ✭✭✭

    Thanks all! Now I can sleep tonight. ;)

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure looks like a die gouge, though I am shocked, shocked that it has not been noticed earlier.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die gouge.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the die gouge notion. But if that were true there would be other examples from the flawed die. I looked at several dozen 1880's online (Coinfacts and HA archives) and couldn't find another like it.

    A more likely scenario for a one-off like this is that something dropped onto the planchet as it was struck, the way pressure-hardened grease and metal shavings sometimes remain.
    Lance.

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    JimsokayJimsokay Posts: 119 ✭✭✭

    Considering how imperfect the process is shows why perfect coins fetch so much.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @robec said:
    It could be a clash. The arrow heads from the reverse are in the area.

    Not a clash. Thought so initially, though.

    Pete

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Sure looks like a die gouge, though I am shocked, shocked that it has not been noticed earlier.

    I don't think there's much that shocks CaptHenway, much less double shocked, i. e. "Shocked, shocked".

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    HalfDimeDudeHalfDimeDude Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 20, 2021 4:14AM

    1880 's IHC had several varieties that had extra medal on the coin. Here's another example.

    To my eyes a die gouge.not a clash, or strike thru.
    This specimen pictured above is a snow 8 odd

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