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BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

And there's being handed a cherry.

I keep my collection squirreled away in a SDB and hardly ever take them out of the bank. Yesterday, I fished the Dansco out of the bank to check for any PVC issues. Well, the VF35 1855 Seated Liberty half I purchased years ago off eBay turns out to be an 1855/854. A full-blown early die state as well. Huh? I must have looked at the coin with a 3X loupe, stuck it into the Dansco, and forgot about it. All the 1855/4's I've seen were later die states where only the 4 crossbar is visible, and just barely. The PCGS EF40 I have is one of these later die states.

Sorry, no pictures. If I had pictures, I would have discovered the overdate earlier. Here's a photo of an early die state copied from PCGS CoinFacts.

Who else has had a "cherry" handed to them without their knowledge at the time of purchase?

3 rim nicks away from Good

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's great :)@Barberian

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome!
    Congrats, dude. ;)

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2021 3:34PM




    Hey howdy just looked at certified dime I bought and discovered a gouge in the obverse. Will post a picture when I figure out how 🤓

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 12, 2021 1:24PM

    This coin on eBay may be another 1855/854 as well based on possible remnants of an 8 and the elongated "ball" on the first 5. Too bad it's in such poor shape.

    https://ebay.com/itm/143964158467?hash=item2184eeba03:g:V7oAAOSwzA9gPFFR

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good idea to revisit our old coins with a fresh set of eyes. Out of sight is out of mind. IMO. Nice! Peace Roy

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  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice @Barberian!

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always fun to cherry pick yourself. Better than missing it on Ebay, but being offered the same coin at 10x the ebay price.

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  • HalfDimeDudeHalfDimeDude Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Just Cherry picked this 1838 O rpm huge O

    "That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2021 8:51PM

    Nice RPM.
    Gerry says this F-101 is the more common die pair of the two for 1838-O;
    R3 vs. R5 for the non-RPM F-102.
    https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1838ovarpage.htm

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @The_Dinosaur_Man said:
    The shop I help out with had one, unattributed until I took a closer look. Just as in the PCGS photo in the OP, you can see the top curve of the repunched "8" and the crossbar of the "4".

    I'll bet the shop owner was delighted! That's about a $500 windfall.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pulled this DDO from my silver melt pile.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:
    This coin on eBay may be another 1855/854 as well based on possible remnants of an 8 and the elongated "ball" on the first 5. Too bad it's in such poor shape.

    https://ebay.com/itm/143964158467?hash=item2184eeba03:g:V7oAAOSwzA9gPFFR

    After deciding to pass on this coin because of its poor condition (AG3/G4= AG3) and because I concurrently cherried ANOTHER 1855/854 off of eBay (a VF25 for $110), I suggested to the seller that he list his coin as the overdate and it should sell quickly for $54. He checked out the coin...bingo!...agreed it was a 55/54, thanked me, pulled the listing, and then raised the price from $54 to $135. (Facepalm) The coin is AG3 and worth considerably less than $135, IMO.

    Did I commit a coin collector "sin" by letting a naive seller know what they had? I posted it here three weeks ago and apparently nobody was interested in buying it, either.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 1, 2021 8:20PM

    I'm a cherrypicker, and never thought I'd cherrypick myself, especially on a coin I had already cherrypicked. I was photographing a group of higher grade and beautifully-toned Mercury dimes I had bought cheaply at a show (cherrypicked) and when I was cropping the reverse image of this one, I noticed the right star on the reverse was doubled. Sure enough, a visit to Variety Vista confirmed it was a doubled die reverse, DDR-003. I submitted it to ANACS and it made MS66:



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  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:

    Who else has had a "cherry" handed to them without their knowledge at the time of purchase?

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both of the 1934-D doubled die obverses are becoming difficult to find. The VAM 4 with the small Mint mark has always been difficult but the VAM 3 used to be fairly easy to find. That's no longer true.

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:

    Did I commit a coin collector "sin" by letting a naive seller know what they had? I posted it here three weeks ago and apparently nobody was interested in buying it, either.

    No. It benefits us all if coins are correctly attributed. Wouldn't you want someone to tell you that the coin you were trying to sell was much rarer than you thought it was. Reminds me of a person who went to a bank to do some Canadian FOREX. The teller told him that his $200 coin was gold and he should take it to a coin store. So he did, and the dealer gave him the appropriate amount for FOREX. Sigh.

  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Both of the 1934-D doubled die obverses are becoming difficult to find. The VAM 4 with the small Mint mark has always been difficult but the VAM 3 used to be fairly easy to find. That's no longer true.

    So what variety is mine? She's pretty beat-up. Would it be worth submitting. With all those hits, she might come back detailed.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think it's worth what it would cost to slab.

  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for that feedback koynekwest!

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You're welcome! VAM 3 IS findable so keep lookin'.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USSID17 said:
    Thanks for that feedback koynekwest!

    Speaking of feedback...what do you write about an eBay seller you just cherry-picked? How do you score his "Item description"?
    "Totally wrong description, which is great!"?
    "Nice to score a rare coin for peanuts!"?
    "A cherrypicker's delight!"?

    I gave the seller 5-stars for his erroneous description. I didn't mention the cherrypick. Am I going to rim ding hell?

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:

    @USSID17 said:
    Thanks for that feedback koynekwest!

    Speaking of feedback...what do you write about an eBay seller you just cherry-picked? How do you score his "Item description"?
    "Totally wrong description, which is great!"?
    "Nice to score a rare coin for peanuts!"?
    "A cherrypicker's delight!"?

    I gave the seller 5-stars for his erroneous description. I didn't mention the cherrypick. Am I going to rim ding hell?

    I don't know but I'm bookmarking his eBay profile and checking his listing on a regular basis!! ;)

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    gotta love the seated stuff. its all good as well

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I got a pretty tough one unbeknownst to me and apparently the eBay seller. Figured it out a year or two later and PCGS agreed.

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  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms70 said:
    I got a pretty tough one unbeknownst to me and apparently the eBay seller. Figured it out a year or two later and PCGS agreed.

  • EddiEddi Posts: 557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had a few very scarce coins bought without the seller or I knowing how scarce they are. One of the most notable was this Feuchtwanger cent, variety 3-D. It lay for over 30 years in my collection before I discovered it is a rarity-7 variety.

    Another one was this 1821 Capped Bust dime, variety JR-2. it is currently rated as R-5+. It's not in great shape, but I collect early dimes so I appreciate its significance.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2021 11:04AM

    @Eddi said:
    I've had a few very scarce coins bought without the seller or I knowing how scarce they are. One of the most notable was this Feuchtwanger cent, variety 3-D. It lay for over 30 years in my collection before I discovered it is a rarity-7 variety.

    Another one was this 1821 Capped Bust dime, variety JR-2. it is currently rated as R-5+. It's not in great shape, but I collect early dimes so I appreciate its significance.

    I started another thread recently upon discovering my 1874-S half that I've had for a decade is an R-8 (WB-4, 2nd one known). https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12918957#Comment_12918957

    For me, this year has been about studying varieties and "cherries", among other things, hammering home the importance of researching and reading up on the series you collect. These are things I should have addressed years ago but I've kept the SLH collection locked away in a bank SDB for years. I'm now rediscovering what I have in my collection. Some nice surprises and some bad revelations (PVC damage). Heck, I didn't even know I had an 1874-CC half in my collection (G4) already when I purchased another at the FUN show a couple of years ago. Also, I now need an 1855-P normal date because all of my 1855-P's are 55/54's. On the other hand, my raw EF40 46-O tall date off eBay has a considerable PVC "crust" on the reverse that I'm trying to remove now with acetone and mineral oil.

    3 rim nicks away from Good

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