When you sell a coin in US mint sealed box, how do you ship it?
Samuel8
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Use a bigger box to hold the mint box or use the same mint box?
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I use a bigger box. At the very least wrap it in brown paper or drop it into a padded envelope if it is small enough.
The original labels might be necessary for the buyer, especially if they are selling it onward.
put the sealed shipping box from the mint inside a larger box.
If sending using USPS DO use a bigger box but TRY to keep the longest dimension no larger than 12” to avoid a surcharge.
So usps will not break it. Be sure box sturdy plus bubble wrap inside.
It does not much to break these sets.
I've always remove label and ship as is... Never had an issue
A serious question, NOT snark.
There are two ways to obtain the PCGS "First Strike" designation on Mint items:
~ submit within the first 30 days of issue;
~ submit an unopened Mint box with a postmark prior to the cutoff date.
Reference
Assuming the Mint shipped to you prior to the cutoff date, wouldn't removing the original label potentially preclude the buyer from being eligible for the "First Strike" designation?
The label you remove is used with the email from the mint to prove what is in the box.
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There is no date info on the label, right? Tracking number?
Packing slip is inside the Mint sealed box.
Yes, sir.
Occasionally, I keep unopened boxes from the Mint. Primarily do this to 'save up' enough coins to justify a submission.
When I do this, I keep the shipper from the Mint. Do this so that I do not lose track of what is inside of the unopened box. Additionally, If "First Strike" is 'in play', I also save the tracking details from the Carrier. Do this to document the "postmark".
I was consolidating some mint boxes recently and rediscovered that the fulfillment center uses a wide variety of boxes, even for the same items.
If you remove or destroy the original label, how can you even be sure it is a sealed mint box? Also, some of the boxes as shipped are barely sealed - I am not sure they could survive a second trip as am outer box.
I have bought, to flip, a couple of U.S. Mint products (2011 5-Coin Silver American Eagle 25th Anniversary Set and a couple of the Coins and Chronicles Sets) and kept the contents sealed in their original cardboard shipping package. I then placed that box into another padded box and mailed it to the purchaser. Just in case the item was eligible for First Strike designation.
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I removed the ship to label, has nothing to do proof what is in the box
I removed the "ship to" label, to my knowledge that has noting to do "First Strike" labeling...
If its small enough I put it in a padded flat rate envelope as is and send it on its way. Presumably removing the mail to address is pointless unless you don't put a return address on you mail outs? Plus your address is on the slip inside anyway.
But that also removes evidence that it is a mint-sealed box. No way to tell who sealed the box without the label.
Also, I know that in prior years (such as when I flipped a box of 2006 SE sets) there was something on the label the buyer needed to see to guarantee First Strike eligibility. I looked at the box for a recent purchase and I didn't see anything that gave a date or product, so that part might have changed.
The ship to label has a mint reference/order number. That, with the email confirmation of the purchase is proof to a buyer of what is in the box. Tracking number on box can also be used as long "has shipped" email shows tracking number and contents of the box.
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The box is sealed from the US Mint, it's easy to identify, the invoice is still inside.
Huh?
Open the box, take the contents out, put the coin and invoice into a similar box and tape shut.
Without the mint label there is no way to know who sealed the box.
And if the buyer plans on obtaining First Strike, he never knows for sure what he is sending to PCGS. There is a reason buyer's desire a mint sealed box and there is a reason they want proof of what is in the box. Labels provide that proof.
But hey, it's your customer, treat him however you wish.
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Assumption: the "ship to" label is the label the Mint puts on the box when they ship it to you.
A submitter can obtain the "First Strike" designation beyond 30 days of Mint 'issue/release'. To do this, the submitter has to send the unopened Mint box to PCGS, complete with eligible "postmark" (i.e., the "ship to" label). If you remove the eligible "ship to" label, you eliminate the possibility of a "First Strike" designation after the cutoff date.
I could just as easily... well it's harder... remove the label and put it on a separate box.
It all depends on what PCGS cars about for proof.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
PCGS requires original mint sealed box and proof of ship date from the mint.
A smart buyer who plans on submitting for First Strike will ask seller for proof of what is in the box, and how that is done has already been discussed here.
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IMO: First strike is overrated, you buy the coin, not the label,
This is not about what you think, it's about what your buyer thinks of you after you removed the mint shipping label that he needs to confirm contents and shipping date. Sellers that don't put their customers first are great for my ebay business.
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Generally speaking, I take the same approach for my personal coins. However, as @derryb aptly pointed out, this is not about my opinion, or even yours. It is about your customer. So, let's look at the market ...
PCGS offers timeframe-specific designations for recent Mint releases (e.g., "First Strike"). I ASSume that PCGS is rational. So, I presume that there is a demand for these types of labels, and that customers are willing to pay for them.
Take, for example, the 2021 ASE, Proof-W, Type 1 coin (i.e., U.S. Mint Items #21EA, and 21RF). At the time of this post, a total of 26,197 of these coins had been slabbed by PCGS. Of this total:
~ 1,391, or 5.31%, were "base" (i.e., PCGS #854426);
~ 10,235, or 39.07%, were "First Strike" (i.e., PCGS #858420);
~ 14,571, or 55.62%, were another type of special label (i.e., First Day, Congratulations Set, Advance Release, etc.).
Based on this sample of one, PCGS customers appear to 'like' their labels, at least on recent Mint releases. This is evidenced by the fact that 94.69% of the labels for the subject 'coin/example' are non-base. Notably, the variety with the largest population, at nearly 40% of the total, is "First Strike".