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How would you grade this Carson City Quarter?
Eddi
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I would greatly appreciate your grading opinions on this 1872 CC quarter.
Ex Stacks ca. 1990.
Thank you!
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F-15.
It doesn't seem to have enough feather details to make VF-20.
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F-12. Possible cleaning?
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F-12. Shield and feathers on reverse stop just short of F-15.
Jim
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Fine 12, lightly cleaned.
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I like it at 15.
I agree with 15 also, but a light evidence of cleaning, that may or may not allow a problem free holder. Thats a 50/50. Cant see in hand, if it doesnt have wipe lines , would have a better chance of problem free holder.
I don’t understand the reason for the “LOL” from Eddi for the above post. Maybe I’m missing something, but it strikes me as rude.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Very easy to do accidentally while using your phone.
Thank you. I hope that explains it.
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I agree with F12... though at first I thought F15.... I tend to be more generous at these low grades - probably one of several reasons I would fail the qualification test for TPG grader....
Cheers, RickO
It’s very close to VF. It should bring VF money as that is a rare bird and very nice for an early CC quarter. The way those were struck a full liberty is sort of a VF thing. Normal quarter it’s a strong F
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
I'd hold it by the rims between my thumb and pointer finger and rotate it slowly under a good light, evaluate the surfaces, amount of wear, any distracting marks, and repeat on the reverse. I would then consider each of these factors and assign an overall grade.
I really have no idea how to grade these, but it was the answer that came to mind when reading the thread title.
I'm very sorry - that was my mistake. Of course I did not intend 'LOL', bur rather a 'LIKE'.
You can remove it by clicking it a second time like an on-off switch. Most of you guys already know this but we get new members all of the time.
We used to have a "Disagree" button but it was abused and removed by the moderators. Some here will use the "LOL" button as a "Disagree" button.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
It was a typing or rather, clicking mistake.
Thank you.👍
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F-12, cleaned by burnishing.
not a fan of the images... so based solely what I don't prefer, I am in the F12 camp
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Im in the F 12 group also , and its been cleaned at one point in its circulation.
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F12.
12
I thought Fine12 also
Mr_Spud
It has the surfaces of a VG, but then there’s a full “LIBERTY” so everyone is giving it a Fine. It’s also been cleaned. But since it’s a Carson City, it’s going to get the “CC push.”
If it grades, despite the cleaning, it will go into a Fine holder.
I would like to see some of the LSCC guys chime in. The market doesn’t grade those like the S mint later date quarters. That is easily in the top half of survivors
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
I'll go with VF20-25. That is an exceptional coin for a 1872-CC. The early CC's (1870-1874) were struck in almost pure silver and wore very quickly.
I'd be shocked if that got a details grade, unless there are hairlines that the pics don't show. Looks like a nice circ to me, with a light bath sometime in the past and a lot of light used in the picture. Tough coin.
My first reaction was F15 cleaned
Fine. Cleaned rather heavily but what a great date in the series. Might get a CC rarity pass, hard to find that date unmolested.
F12 cleaned
Well first I would get good fluoresce lights and strong magnification devices, maybe even a microscope. I would study the coin very closely on both side, and grade accordingly...
I think this answers your question... Thanks for sharing!
F12
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My first thought was Genuine Details. It looks like the grading consensus is Fine. Was at a coin shop the other day and there was A LOT of Genuine Details TPG graded coins in the display case.
Go look at a fine 1891o and compare it to this one. Then look at a 76s. My only point being that a understanding of the series is required for grading that the basic redbook guide doesn’t get into. I would love to see a fine 72cc that is this nice
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
F12. 15 would be a stretch.
OK someone explain to this numismanoob what about this piece points to a past cleaning so I learn something today
That's a tough one isn't it. What looks like a cleaning, the dark dirtyness around the stars and other devices combined with the completely clean fields could just be normal wear and tear, rub.
Feld?
15+/20 details, net 15 for cleaning.
But it will straight grade.
Couldn't the "dirtyness" have been removed non-destructively with careful use of a soft toothpick and acetone?
It sure could have been, but it wasn't. Outside of that I believe there are looking for abrasive hair lines. And again couldn't those be caused by normal wear and tear?
I’d grade by my offer, $4750 if damage free.
I’m thinking VF20.
Sweet coin.
pocket smoothed, not cleaned that I can see.
bob
You will end up with bright spots. I would leave it alone. It's been wiped but not harshly. It could straight grade very easily, the date is tough to find "unprocessed".
F12.
Cleaned, yes.
Market acceptable, yes!
Straight grade, most likely!!!
Nice coin!
F-12 means "There will be a full 'LIBERTY' on the shield, but it will not be sharp."
The "LIBERTY" on this coin looks pretty sharp to me.
The problem with "survival of the fittest" is that it sounds totally awesome - so long as it is someone else's survival that is at stake