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Very bad cravings on back of quater

Quater is great shape but circle shaped chunks of metal. Anyone know what this is and what can it be? Any help would be awesome. I should have asked tou guys before i started submitting these coins. I should have sent in my BU morgen dollar and BU peace dollar and my 2 privy Dollars and S dollar produced 75,000 and the 2 S silver dollar where they made about 255"000 when it was to only be 200,000 made. I buy all limited production mint coins. I even got the platinum $25 oz 10,000 made. I just need a better understanding of errors. I really need to buy the cherry pickers guide.
Have they come out with a 2021 book yet or when is it coming out? Ty



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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,907 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did you mean "carvings" rather than "cravings"? It looks like PMD (post mint damage) on your coin.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope you didn't actually send this in for grading. It is just damage, nothing more and is worth exactly 25 cents.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its also to see the coin through the capsule. And diagnosis usually needs pics of both sides.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like between this, the cent and any other coins you have sent in you have wasted a lot of money. This was run over or in some other way damaged, its just worth a quarter.

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  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD = Post Mint Damage. It’s a quick shorthand for saying that what someone is seeing is damage that occurred after the coin was created. It may be through environmental change, someone defacing the coin, or some other mechanical damage. It doesn’t matter, all the matters is it didn’t happen at the time of the coin being made.

  • AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How many total coins did you send in? So far you are 0/2.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think its 3. :/

    Under error tier, no less.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep looking. Keep trying. Keep studying.

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  • AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    I think its 3. :/

    Under error tier, no less.

    Aren't those $100 a pop or close?

  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like some of the quarters that I hit with my screwdriver metal detecting.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think English is Vincent’s second language so tact would be a courtesy

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  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AlanSki said:

    @JBK said:
    I think its 3. :/

    Under error tier, no less.

    Aren't those $100 a pop or close?

    Depending, of course, I would say $65 is average. If it’s a particularly valuable error the price would be higher.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is a quater? See - the spell checker underlines quater............

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  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2020 5:04PM

    @Cameonut said:
    What is a quater? See - the spell checker underlines quater............

    You wouldn’t believe how many times I hear people pronounce it that way. I suppose they learned it at the libary studying nuc-u-lar physics or ath-uh-letics.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cameonut said:
    What is a quater? See - the spell checker underlines quater............

    Perhaps it would be clearer to you if he posted in his native language.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have no cravings for those carvings.

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see a kawtur... :D

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I have no cravings for those carvings.

    not you, too.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Cameonut said:
    What is a quater? See - the spell checker underlines quater............

    Perhaps it would be clearer to you if he posted in his native language.

    I have a work document that keeps defaulting to Italian as the language. It wreaks havoc on the spell check. :D

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Cameonut said:
    What is a quater? See - the spell checker underlines quater............

    Perhaps it would be clearer to you if he posted in his native language.

    I have a work document that keeps defaulting to Italian as the language. It wreaks havoc on the spell check. :D

    That's funny. I have one that keeps defaulting to German. I can't figure out why.

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  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just sad. I guess there is no way to stop this.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @vplite99 said:
    Just sad. I guess there is no way to stop this.

    The sophomoric behavior? Appears not. It's the Ugly American of legend.

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suspect an alt or a troll..... anyone who has knowledge of PCGS grading coins.... and supposedly has sent it in.... surely has knowledge enough to recognize whether the coin in question is damaged or not....

    just sayin.....

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tincup said:
    I suspect an alt or a troll..... anyone who has knowledge of PCGS grading coins.... and supposedly has sent it in.... surely has knowledge enough to recognize whether the coin in question is damaged or not....

    just sayin.....

    Oh, it is possible. In which case, adults should just ignore him. If it is not an alt or a troll, then where is the civility?

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vincentbulgarino said:
    i NEED YOU HELP BADLY PLEASE IF YOU SAY JUNK AND OTHERS ALSO SAY I WILL BELIEVE YOU.

    If I say, "junk" but nobody else does then what?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vincentbulgarino said:
    YES IM NOOB. JUMPED THE GUN. SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU FIRST. I MESSED UP ON SENDING IN COINS THAT COST ME A BUNCH MONEY SO 😔. BUT NOW I KNOW I WILL BE ASKING YOU GREAT MASTERS BEFORE I EVEN THINK ABOUT GETTING THEM GRADED.
    IS THE 2020 $ 1 W POINT WITH MARK THEY ONLY MADE A LIMITED AMOUNT. THE ONE THAT HAS W ON BACK.
    2# SHOULD I GET THE 2020 S $1 SILVER DOLLAR DONE ONLY 255000 MADE?
    MY 2 $1 SILVER WWII PRIVY ONES GRADED? OR THE PLATINUM COIN I GOT. IM JUST AFFRID IT WILL NOT BE MS70 EVEN IF IT CAME FROM MINT NO WAY TO KNOW WHAT IT WILL GRADE.
    JUST THINK AFRAID IT WILL COME BACK WITH LESS THEN MS70.
    I ALSO WILL BE GETTING THE NEW $1 2021 SILVER DOLLAR PREORDER 20 OF THEM AT $24.89. NOW BEFORE THE EVEN UP YET PRICE IS ALMOST $100 NOW FOR 1 SOMETHING THEY DID NOT SAY BEFORE IT 35TH anniversary. People don't even know price mint will charge and how many being made. I think sending all 20 to get graded might be good idea. Who knows i pay 25 now i see people not 100%sure myself but there charging $90 to $100 for same one. Locked in my preordered for $25. Anyone know about the new 2021 $1 silver eagle being released in JAN?.Would love to know how many if there is limit. And your honest option. Because how do they go up $75 before they list a price and quantity?
    DOES ANYONE HAVE INFO? LOCKED MY BID AT $25 FOR 20 ROLL thats 20 coins. What do you think.

    For modern "limited editions", it depends on whether you are selling them or keeping them. It also depends on whether you want PCGS plastic or not. It depends on whether you want "First Strike" designation or not.

    The Privy Mark coins are probably worth sending in. If you get 70s, you win. If you get 69s, you lose. But it is worth the gamble, especially if you are selling. If you are keeping them AND you don't care about the plastic, you can keep them raw.

    For other things like the 2020-W, it depends on the same factors. If you are keeping them, totally up to you as to how you want them packaged. If you are selling, you have to get 70s to win. 69s are a loss.

    For presale on 2021s, expect problems with your order. If the issue price is higher than people anticipate or the market price is higher, people may well start canceling orders. If there is a high mintage limit, expect these coins to not have a secondary market price increase and so you are risking a loss by locking in at too high per price.

    I'm rather suspicious of either you or your supplier. There is NO WAY the issue price for this coin is anywhere near $24.89. It is most likely $75 to $100. So anyone selling them for $24.89 is either an idiot or ripping you off.

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  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vincentbulgarino said:
    Im learing just the hard way. Cost me a few $000s to figure out. But sometimes i watched when on different times people are telling them they got junk not worth nothing. Please not saying you. Then the person sent away and was really error when there was like 20 people told him straight junk. But please i NEED YOU HELP BADLY PLEASE IF YOU SAY JUNK AND OTHERS ALSO SAY I WILL BELIEVE YOU. SO COST ME ABOUT $900 TO FIND OUT HOW OF NOOB IS AND I KNOW NOTHING. NOT BEING SMART IM TELLING YOU BAD NOOB AND HAVE TONS TO LEARN BEFORE I MAKE IT MORE THEN HOBBY 😂

    This site has quite a few knowledgeable numismatists and experts on a number of different collecting topics as well as the minting/dismaying process. If you get a strong consensus, it's extremely unlikely they are wrong.

    There are some things that depend on the quality of the pictures, such as natural toning vs accelerated/artificial toning, grading opinions on MS69 and MS70, and Micro doubled dies that could be difficult to evaluate. But if you post a focused, representative pic, you'll get an accurate answer

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suggest removing the post with your name, address and last four digits of your credit card.

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  • SnapsSnaps Posts: 195 ✭✭✭✭

    How come you had to pay shipping when the top banner of the website says free shipping on orders over $199?

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now it is my turn to appear like a newbie....

    What are these special Silver Eagles you ordered. Is there a limited bullion edition for next year?

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vincentbulgarino said:

    @MFeld said:
    I suggest removing the post with your name, address and last four digits of your credit card.

    Tyvm had no clue im glad you told me to remove. Like i said i am new but have over well lets say a whole bedroom full of coins. And sorry to post pic like that but i did not like being called a lier.
    Again new to this and have tons of coinage. I hope with this place can help me gain knowledge i truly need.

    Just hang around and you’ll be fine. This is the place to go to get questions answered. We also like you to feel comfortable asking.
    The quarter you’re showing is damaged and is worth nothing more than 25 cents. Yes if I were you I’d get some cherry pickers guide books and read up on error coins. That would be a big help for you.
    Happy hunting, Joe

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Now it is my turn to appear like a newbie....

    What are these special Silver Eagles you ordered. Is there a limited bullion edition for next year?

    There are limited edition products next year, which I thought he was talking about. But based on the price and source, I think he is just talking about regular old 2021 silver eagles.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vincentbulgarino said:
    Sorry paid a little more but here is pictures and this company is no scammer. Again ordered a while ago and forgot price but still look what i got for. They are no charging over $80 now and going up. I made mistake on price and i am sorry but no lier here. Tyvm stay safe.

    Ty

    Hi,

    Those are just regular 2021 silver eagles. That's not a bad price, but I wouldn't get into the slabbing game on those.

    I thought you were talking about the proof issues with the $100 pre-sale. Those bullion coins are just that: bullion. If you get them into MS70 holders you might get a premium. But you aren't a bulk submitter paying $5 per coin to get them slabbed. If you pay $26 + $35 for slab fees, you are into them for $60. 69s will be selling for $26, so you'd have to get at least 50% 70s to break even.

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Post pics with coin in holder showing PCGS assessment. That would help.

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Flagged.

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  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can post your submission results before the coins are shipped. Just block out any personal demographics.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Graders don’t speak to submitters.

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