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ID help requested on 2 different older coins

Silver coin is .3g and 15.3mm, thin, maybe medieval?
Copper coin is 20.8mm and 4.3g, unusual lettering or characters?
I think their both hammered but I need help. Searching for similars has been tough. Thanks. Peace Roy

BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52

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  • IVBIVB Posts: 248 ✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2020 9:31PM

    2nd
    Nepal, Prithvi Vir Vikram (1881-1911), AE Paisa.
    Year (at the bottom on the obverse) is not visible.

    Same type https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=135573

  • IVBIVB Posts: 248 ✭✭✭

    The first coin is unlikely to be identified.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IVB thanks for that. Are you using an OCR app or are you fluent in regional languages? Either way, you enhance my collecting journey, immensely. Have a good day.
    I spun the silver coin around and took another image, seeing a few large letters, maybe D O R or P, and the tips of a fleur de lis in the center, I think. Peace Roy

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52

  • IVBIVB Posts: 248 ✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 I can understand what language (or writing system) is on the coin and look further. Either I had met before these types of coins.
    I will try to find info about this silver coin.

  • IVBIVB Posts: 248 ✭✭✭
    edited November 15, 2020 7:08AM

    @Namvet69
    Of course, it will still not be possible to determine – the key details are not visible.

    It could be the letters "P O R" (for PORTVGAL) and it could be a Portuguese dinheiro like Afonso I.
    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces62612.html

    Or it could be the letters "D · G · R" and it could be a Solidus from Swedish Livonia.
    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42423.html

    Et cetera et cetera.
    In general, we can only guess endlessly.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IVB thanks again. With a full strike coin for comparison, I am very sure it's a 1 solidus from Swedish Livonia. Interesting that the Romanian counterfeits are as collectable. Peace Roy

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52

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