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MizzouMizzou Posts: 463 ✭✭✭✭

Would it be Abe Lincoln who is on literally millions of pennies or Queen Elizabeth II who appears on the coinage of at least 35 different countries -

I haven't dug into the mintage numbers to find out but I'm guessing Queen Elizabeth - Or is there someone else that I'm missing?

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have to say Queen Elizabeth hands down. From my educated guess. President Lincoln only sets on the cent and a few commemoratives. Queen Elizabeth is on all denominations in many different countries and for a lot of years, sine the 1950s.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Batman23 said:
    I would have to say Queen Elizabeth hands down. From my educated guess. President Lincoln only sets on the cent and a few commemoratives. Queen Elizabeth is on all denominations in many different countries and for a lot of years, sine the 1950s.

    She became Queen in 1952 so we're talking about 68 years of coinage with portrait. :o

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @Batman23 said:
    I would have to say Queen Elizabeth hands down. From my educated guess. President Lincoln only sets on the cent and a few commemoratives. Queen Elizabeth is on all denominations in many different countries and for a lot of years, sine the 1950s.

    She became Queen in 1952 so we're talking about 68 years of coinage with portrait. :o

    I'll bet it will be a long time, if ever, before anyone comes anywhere close.

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Interesting question. Could be Lincoln. You've got 100+ years on a coin that has 5-10 billion made every year.

    By comparison, British pennies only have mintages of 250 million per year. Canada cents were also running at 250 million per year before they stopped making them. Australia runs about half that. Other Commonwealth countries would be pretty small by comparison.

    If I'm bored, I might start adding them up.

    Sure, but don't forget to add in the nickels, dimes, quarters, halves, loonies, twoonies, pounds, commemoratives, etc. etc...

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 8:44AM

    Hands down, no doubt Queen Elizabeth I would wager by a factor of 10!

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 9:08AM

    My initial guess was QEII but now I think Abe Lincoln might be the winner.

    QEII has more variety and reach, but Abe has raw mintage.

    I suspect that on an annual basis right now (and for a very long time in the past), Lincoln beats the Queen.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would probably be between QEII and Abe. Abe has had multi billion coins minted for many decades now and QEII has longevity and multiple nations. Probably a matter of someone doing the math.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 9:49AM

    i'd think good 'ol abe would take it by the billions as well.

    i think i recall some german coins putting up some big numbers but those are almost all motifs, not likenessess. iirc

    my prelim numbers on abe is 569,342,216,447 (half trill) - from 1909-2018. tired of looking for 19/20 mintage figures.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, it’s amazing when you think over a half trillion Lincoln cents have been minted. It’s almost mind boggling.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think just the UK coinage would exceed good ole Abe much less when you consider all the colonial issues...Canada might even surpass good ole Abe! You have to consider Queen Elizabeth has been on every denomination of coin produced! Heck, just the UK decimal coinage would probably take the finish line!

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    i'd think good 'ol abe would take it by the billions as well.

    i think i recall some german coins putting up some big numbers but those are almost all motifs, not likenessess. iirc

    my prelim numbers on abe is 569,342,216,447 (half trill) - from 1909-2018. tired of looking for 19/20 mintage figures.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 10:27AM

    Certainly not Pete Townshend or Daltrey.
    ;)
    I would say Abe beats QE2 by a factor of at least 5x.
    I would guess without doing any math or research that more Lincoln Cents have been minted than all other US coins since 1793 combined.
    It is also likely that more Lincoln Cents have been minted than the total of all British Empire coins in their history (say....since reliable mintage figures exist.)

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 10:30AM

    @amwldcoin said:
    I think just the UK coinage would exceed good ole Abe much less when you consider all the colonial

    i need to have open 2 very big files open to do some general calcs. finding numbers online is possible but not as easy as i previously thought. the world pdf are nice but big in megabytes. guess i'll do em one at a time.

    i did add up the 1948-2000 german federal republic 1 pfennig and it only clocked out at 15 bil or so. even though it doesnt have a likeness, just want to get a feel for these types of calculations w/o having to calculate. based our numbers (i kept my spreadsheet), i can glance to see whom might be close or have first place.

    ya, i've seen a lot of victoria. it is almost spooky to track wars/leading nations or whatever by how many countries coinage they appear on.

    the uk coinage may not be as high since they switched over to the euros. not to many if any likeness on that coinage and since it is modern, that is where the big numbers would be. i presume. i'll post a % for abe on modern 2000- vs 1909-2000.

    anyone working on another country feel free to post here so we dont' double up efforts.

    so abe from 2000-2018 (since i don't have the 19/20 numbers yet) represent 33% of the mintage. probably will be closer to 37 with the updated numbers.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I imagine it would be pretty easy to compare. Only a few countries issue coins of any amount of coins that matter when we're talking billions.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    the uk coinage may not be as high since they switched over to the euros.

    They never switched to Euros.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    the uk coinage may not be as high since they switched over to the euros.

    They never switched to Euros.

    you're right. i was thinking EU mainland.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 10:37AM

    not seeing ANY victoria on modern uk coinage. i shoulda picked up on that as i have several newer issues. newer being 1998 forward from the royal mint website. but now it seems i do recall seeing victoria on some pence or pound coins. hmm

    also it seems i need to consider elizabeth as well. this may take a while to untangle.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 10:38AM

    Queen Victoria passed away in 1901. Elizabeth II is still on many coins.

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's gotta be QEII.

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 11:56AM

    There are those who have commented on QE appearance being on the most coinage, and you can count me among them.

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely, probably, maybe, possibly, Queen Elizabeth II. Not only on many countries for 68 years but also on most of the denominations, if not all. Having said that thou, it may be Lincoln. :|

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    3stars3stars Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don’t forget QEII also shows up on bullion coins as well, so all those maple leafs, Britannia’s, koala etc have her image, along with commems and special issues

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...Whose...

    I’m going with The Queen.

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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, at first I definitely thought of Queen Elizabeth II...........But then Lincoln popped up and I thought Hmmmmm Maybe.....................But Maybe to get a definite answer we should ask this guy

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Siri doesn't know!

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    kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,571 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow this is a great question. Sure she’s been on every denomination in the monarchy since 1952 but Abe has been on every cent since 1909. Look at the population of Australia and some of these tiny little colonies I would think five years of high Abe production would wipe those numbers out.

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    QEII, followed by Victoria.

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's gotta be QEII.

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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    QEII's very first portrait on a numismatic object was in 1935 when she graced the Bank of Canada $20 as a then 9 year old princess that was a mere third in line to the throne.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Siri doesn't know!

    next up Queen Alexa I

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    mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If one looked at enough deep cameo proofs they just might have The Queen beat

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    BearlyHereBearlyHere Posts: 269 ✭✭✭✭

    @OldEastside said:
    Wow, at first I definitely thought of Queen Elizabeth II...........But then Lincoln popped up and I thought Hmmmmm Maybe.....................But Maybe to get a definite answer we should ask this guy

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Batman23 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Interesting question. Could be Lincoln. You've got 100+ years on a coin that has 5-10 billion made every year.

    By comparison, British pennies only have mintages of 250 million per year. Canada cents were also running at 250 million per year before they stopped making them. Australia runs about half that. Other Commonwealth countries would be pretty small by comparison.

    If I'm bored, I might start adding them up.

    Sure, but don't forget to add in the nickels, dimes, quarters, halves, loonies, twoonies, pounds, commemoratives, etc. etc...

    Yes, but the mintage decreases with the increase in denomination.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thefinn said:
    QEII, followed by Victoria.

    Modern mintages are much higher than Victorian mintages. I would be very surprised if there weren't more Abes than Victorias.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 7:43PM
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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a little over 10 billion UK decimal cents (post-1968).

    I think Abe's going to win this one.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2020 7:50PM

    According to the Royal Mint, there are only 29 billion UK coins circulating. Again, this doesn't include pre-decimal coinage and the demonetized pound coins. But that's only 15 years of coinage (1953-1968).

    https://www.royalmint.com/corporate/circulating-coin/uk-currency/mintages/

    Abe must be pushing 450 billion if you include wheat cents.

    I'm still going with Abe.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup, a half-trillion Lincolns. 57 for every person on the planet.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    Yup, a half-trillion Lincolns. 57 for every person on the planet.

    It does give you some perspective on the sheer volume of that coin...and we lose money on everyone they make.

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    SIowhandSIowhand Posts: 322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My initial reaction it has to be the Queen. But it has been a difficult number to figure out. And given the total of Lincoln cents above, I am no longer sure. 35 countries have coins with the Queen. But a closer look at the list of countries, some of these are relatively small.

    The following countries have issued coinage with The Queen's image: Canada, Bahamas, Belize, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Dominica, East Caribbean States, Jamaica, Turks Caicos, Falkland Islands, St. Helena, Tristan da Cunha, South Africa, Rhodesia, East Africa, Nigeria, Mauritius, Seychelles, Hong Kong, Malaya British Borneo, Australia, New Zealand, Tokelau, Fiji, Kiribati, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Cyprus, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Man, and the UK.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    Does Lincoln get double credit for appearing twice on every Memorial cent?

    :D
    Checkmate.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,004 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Queen Elizabeth II gets my vote. Many Countries, many denominations and a very long reign.

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    MizzouMizzou Posts: 463 ✭✭✭✭

    I was getting ready to agree that it must be Abe and then I pulled up this article. With jmlamzaf's research putting the penny mintages at around 450 billion, It makes me wonder if the article below is correct.

    Category: Articles
    Author Name: Louis Golino
    Posted: 01-17-2017 03:45:00 PM
    Few people have had as much of an influence on coinage and numismatics as Queen Elizabeth II. Her face has been present on the obverse of commonwealth coins all over the world for over 60 years. Explore the history and influence of her Majesty in numismatics.
    It can be argued that no living person has had a greater impact on numismatics than Queen Elizabeth II. This is especially true in terms of volume, since she has appeared on more coins than anyone else. She has also appeared on coins from more countries than any other individual. As a result, her face has graced billions of circulating, commemorative, and non-circulating legal tender coins over the course of her reign.

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    MizzouMizzou Posts: 463 ✭✭✭✭

    I just realized that he stated Queen Elizabeth ll has appeared on more coins than anyone else, but that doesn't mean that the mintage numbers are higher. I'm sticking with Honest Abe.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think I'm going to go with Lincoln. The mint is still clicking off 7 billion Zincolns each year, with half a trillion in the rear view mirror. The three largest countries with QEII on all their coins, GB, Canada, and Australia, no longer issue coinage of equivalent denomination as our cent. The 1982 cents, with 16 billion made, might come close to outnumbering all of Australia's QEII coinage by itself.

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    ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess that we have a higher population and larger economy than all of those countries combined (by a decent margin). She’s on a ton, and definitely the living person on the most coins, but half a trillion is astronomical. I would also think that we’ve made more fivers than the currency she’s been put on, but that’s probably for a different forum.

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