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They are selling Nazi and Stalin era coin sets. Sorry, just not right to me. I inherited Nazi era stamps a long time ago and destroyed the ones that had Hitler's image on them, but kept the other penny stamps with an M on them.
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We hopefully learn from history, why erase it? Should I destroy my nazi era US coins?
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Better avoid eBay then too
Thankfully it's super easy to resolve this simple debate. I'd say 3-5 posts till we have the definitive answer and move on.
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The biggest crime is how much they're trying to sell them for.
Agreed that destruction of heinous history does no good, as long as it's not idolized and revered.
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I'm not sure why anyone would shop there in the first place. Just set your money on fire in the street and invite the neighbors over to watch.
Frankly, I wouldn't use nazi stuff as toilet paper. It would be an insult to my bottom.
If they have swastikas or Hitler's image, I would put a grinder to them.
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I must respectfully disagree. You are, of course free to collect or not collect what you want, but to condemn or even destroy historic artifacts is ill advised, in my opinion.
What should I do with my Confederate currency and cent restrikes? What about coins issued by despotic regimes over the centuries. What about various Roman emperors who were brutal and enslaved thousands? Should Russian collectors destroy US coins and stamps if we are destroying Soviet material? What about people in other parts of the world who feel the US is responsible for all manner of heinous activities?
Destroying historical artifacts does not erase the bad things in history. Preserving them preserves history and the lessons it provides.
I think of Nazi or Soviet coins as historical "war trophies" - mementos of a defeated enemy or ideology. They honor those who fought to defeat an enemy.
They posted Naz and Stalin COINSETS on Facebook. Not stamps.
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I wouldn't touch anything to do with the nazis. If you've ever looked at the pictures from the holocaust, you might feel different about nazi stuff. The nazis were the worst of the worst. Absolute monsters. It gets my blood boiling just thinking about those scum and what they did to all of those innocent men, women, and children.
They lost my business a long time ago, they are also the same company as Modern Coin Mart. They like to call and try to sell over the phone even though I told them not to each time. Had to block all their numbers since they kept calling from different lines.
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My one bit of Nazi memorabilia is a very large aluminum serving spoon with an flying eagle carrying a Swastika. It's something my Dad brought home with him after the Russian army liberated him from Stalag Luft I in Barth Germany.
It was his spoon through the winter of '44-'45.
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I've turned down Nazi junk myself. I don't want that crap in my collection!
I understand your frustration but I wouldn’t destroy any piece of history.
My family are from Taiwan (Native Taiwanese) and after the civil war in China, the loosing KMT fled to Taiwan and killed thousands of native Taiwanese and tortured many others. A very grim part of Taiwan’s history but I still buy and own coins made in that era that have their symbols and busts of the leaders on them and my family are good with that.
I see the pieces as historial pieces. They may represent something grim that can be personal but we should learn from history and move on.
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Roman emperors, what's the difference? The men and their actions were abhorrent, the leftover trinkets from their failed political systems are interesting parts of history. We better pay attention or it will happen again, without question, on a scale that will make our current social issues seem like child's play.
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Its offensive material. Much of it belongs in museums as teachable periods of awful, barbaric, grotesque history.
Should it all be destroyed? No!, we need to learn from history. Profiting from merchandise relating to it can be argued both ways vigorously without a definitive answer. It is what it is, not my cup of tea to possess, but not illegal.
Well said doubledragon. My blood is boiling today.
To each his own, I suppose, but I'd want Nazi stamps about as much as I'd want mass murderer trading cards. Pass.
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@Modwriter "My blood is boiling today."
Something that happened that many years ago & something you have no control over and can't change is not worth ruining your day over. Get outside and see the sun shine.
Are you referring to the 1930 Zeppelin coins ?
FWIW, there are distinctions to be made within the Reichsmark period from 1925-1948 ... with Hitler’s control largely starting in 1933.
I would not want you to go around all the time with boiling blood, but in a sense it is good that you have a negative reaction when you think about those events. That's how we avoid them happening again. The danger is when people grow up without any sense of what happened.
And another thing....we say "never again" but the reality is that genocides on a smaller scale have been carried out in the decades since WWII. Cambodia, Rawanda, Balkans, etc. - all equally as disturbing but just on a smaller scale. If a few old coins and stamps keep the memory alive then that is a good thing. Too many people have already forgotten, or never learned in the first place.
That place is a major ripoff, I wouldn't buy from them no matter what, Nazi stuff or not. I own one Nazi pfennig from 1939, and it's bone chilling to look at. Just a reminder of an awful time in history.
I don't think destroying the historical stuff is wise idea either, but you have a choice whether or not to buy from that website. I have no trouble with people privately owning it or it being displayed in a museum. Now mounting and displaying Nazi memorabilia in an open public square and immortalizing them is another thing altogether.
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Not trying to be antagonistic, but you may want to review the history of Great Britain, The Netherlands and The United States Of America among others.
C’mon man, let the OP have his peeve!
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Nazi coins are not for my collection; the swastika is something I would never display. However, I don't believe that destroying history is the right answer. The Nazi era is a horrible era in history, but it shouldn't be forgotten, and the atrocities that occurred should be remembered and never repeated. I recognize that there are collectors who will preserve this history, and I am okay with that. It is my belief that few if any buyers of such items are buying them to glorify the Nazis, rather than to preserve the history. To that end, I would never, ever support someone who sold modern Nazi items; there is no history to them, and there is no positive value whatsoever.
I will note that I have sold Nazi coinage before when consigned to me. I'm sure Hitler would be pleased to know that a Jew has profited off of his money.
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It doesn't bother me at all to collect historical items, no matter who they reference. They are a reminder of what was and what is now. You can't erase history no matter how hard you try. I was in Germany in the 70's, US Army. I went to Dachau. It was horrendous to see how people were killed, but it also made me realize how great it is to live in a country that is not dictator controlled. If history gets erased as people would like, how would the future generations learn? Look at what's coming out of our schools now!! They are in the big cities rioting against history they have not been taught or understand!
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I think some of the comments are insensitive and dismiss the anger and concern expressed by the OP. He made a comment about a place that sells something that he disagrees with and finds personally offensive. Good for him! Comparing other terrible regimes or to the civil war or anything else really isn't the point. This WAS a tragic period in history, in the not so distant past, where we had parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles all affected by it. It obviously affected the OP so let him have his say without others counterarguments!
I've found the history of man to be rather destructive, brutal and savage. Maybe we will evolve one day. In the meantime, the market thrives. Buying , selling, trading, grading.
I'm sure the history of our arrival ( ancestors') in America did not bode well with it's people. And conquering the land, included this same type of brutality ....
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If one doesn't want counterarguments, posting on a message board where people can reply to what you write is an odd way to go about it.
Us non-OP's are just exercising our own various peeves also. A separate thread for each of us would be too much, so this one is a good place.
C’mon man, let us non-OP's have our peeves!
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I refuse to collect ANY coins from the US until they apologize for the Native Americans, any European coins until they apologize for colonization. And basically every country for wars, slavery ect. /s
Are you guys who hate Nazi stamps and coins going to boycott eBay? They have plenty of that stuff on their web site.
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I don't buy from eBay so it's a moot point for me but I could see someone boycotting the sellers of that stuff. Just like I wouldn't buy from anyone on eBay that sells ISIS, Taliban or al-Qaeda material
So guess I need to destroy theses satanic coins of slavery 🤨 Always remember, tearing down all the Democrat statues doesn’t erase the civil war.
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