1916S & 1923 Buff 5 Cents

bigtonydallas · April 23, 2020 12:50PM

Just bought these 2 buffs. The 1923 is probably a 2 1/2 feather but the 16S looks like a 2 feather even though there is a very faint feather. What do you all think?

bigtonydallas · April 23, 2020 12:54PM

Also the reverse of the 16S looks like an S over D? Ill post a pic soon.

BuffaloIronTail · April 23, 2020 1:20PM

I can't really tell from your picture if there is anything remaining. It kinda looks like there might be.

If any material is still there, meaning that the area where the feather was had any residuals showing, you won't get it.

Pete

bigtonydallas · April 23, 2020 1:28PM

I know from Ron Popes book "Buffalo Nickels The Abraided Die Varieties" he states for the 1916-S "It is considered to be a true two feather variety in spite of the tiny remnant of the third feather". My question is how tiny???

BuffaloIronTail · April 23, 2020 1:41PM

@bigtonydallas said:
I know from Ron Popes book "Buffalo Nickels The Abraided Die Varieties" he states for the 1916-S "It is considered to be a true two feather variety in spite of the tiny remnant of the third feather". My question is how tiny???

I get it now. Didn't know Ron made mention. Funny thing is, I have the Book and never delved deep enough into it to see that comment.

That is why I never claimed to be an expert, just someone who might know a little more than others about some numismatic stuff, and willing to share it with everyone.

Pete

koynekwest · April 23, 2020 3:07PM

There's one die where the feather is totally effaced. There are a number of dies where small remnants of the feather remain.

This is the only die that's worthwhile and it's very scarce.

bigtonydallas · April 23, 2020 10:01PM

No problem Pete. I still am learning each day. Ron thanks for the clarification!

koynekwest · April 23, 2020 10:07PM

You are welcome, Big Tony!

ricko · April 24, 2020 7:27AM

Wow..difficult to assess...but when I magnify the picture, it looks like too much remaining to be a two feather...and no, I would not bet my hard earned gold coins on it... Cheers, RickO

bigtonydallas · April 25, 2020 2:01PM

Rarely do I pay a premium for 80-90% of the coins I buy. Even if it is not the variety I only lose 10-20%, so most of the time $1-$5. Now if I found an UNC then I could lose more but then I probably wont gamble unless I feel lucky. LOL. People who dont actively search dont realize how many coins I have searched and how many pages have I studied to know when there is a diamond in the rough!!!! Example I have probably looked at least a few thousand 1930-s buffs before I found the 2 feather I found a few months back. I can find varieties on EBAY, coin shows and even in dealers cases. If the variety is very rare, like the 1923 two feathur buff, and the picture is not clear and the price is reasonable, I will roll the dice.

koynekwest · April 25, 2020 6:33PM

As the 2 feather coins have become more well known they are, of course, much more difficult to cherrypick, especially online.

bigtonydallas · April 25, 2020 10:43PM

I have been trying to find a 1936-D 3 1/2 leg Buff. As well as a 1923 2 feather buff.

1916S & 1923 Buff 5 Cents

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