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Buff 5 cent - 1915d did not get designation

bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
edited April 12, 2020 3:23AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I just got back my second coin with an explination too early a die state to get 2 feather designation. I think they are wrong. What do you all think?

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like the 2 feather to me.

  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Looks like the 2 feather to me.

    Me too.

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You may want to try our host on that one. Die state aside, it either has the feather or it doesn't. Yours doesn't.

  • 1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭

    It certainly looks like one to me also, and it looks better than a vf20 from here!

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can you post a better picture?

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if the grade / designation does not fit, you must resubmit or try elsewhere

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Can you post a better picture?

    Agreed. When I zoom in it’s out of focus just enough to where I can’t judge the coin.
    All told as it stands it appears to be a two feather.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think that they liked that small piece that borders the feather on the left side in the picture.

    Pete

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2020 7:46PM

    Pete-that's characteristic for the variety. I don't believe it's a remnant of the feather.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OK Ron. Didn't know that. I learn something new every day.

    Pete

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely looks like a 2 feather to me.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    OK Ron. Didn't know that. I learn something new every day.

    Pete

    Every one I've seen (which isn't many) look like this. The anomaly couldn't be a remnant of the third feather as it is not configured correctly-it is in the wrong place and is in much too high relief to be the shallow, low relief of that design element.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Pete-that's characteristic for the variety. I don't believe it's a remnant of the feather.

    But that opinion may not agree with NCG's opinion.

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's > @291fifth said:

    @koynekwest said:
    Pete-that's characteristic for the variety. I don't believe it's a remnant of the feather.

    But that opinion may not agree with NCG's opinion.

    That's all the more reason to submit it to PCGS. They've slabbed 13 of them.

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glad I saw this post. I was going to send my two circulated 1913 type one three and one half leggers to ngc for attribution since pcgs is now closed. But I will just wait till they reopen.

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  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭

    I'd be comfortable buying this as the 2 feather variety every time.

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  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭

    Well I am also unemployed right now because of the pandemic. I will have to wait once I am employed again to send them both to PCGS which I should have done in the first place. Maybe Ill find a 1923 2 feather to send as well. LOL

    PS my scanner is a piece of sh_t!!! lol

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bigtonydallas said:
    Well I am also unemployed right now because of the pandemic. I will have to wait once I am employed again to send them both to PCGS which I should have done in the first place. Maybe Ill find a 1923 2 feather to send as well. LOL

    PS my scanner is a piece of sh_t!!! lol

    That would be an accomplishment-it's probably the toughest of 'em all. Good luck!

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die state shouldn't matter if the feather has been polished off the die. I only see two feathers in the pics, but I'd have to look at it in hand to attempt to rationalize their explanation.

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭

    an explination too early a die state to get 2 feather designation.

    That's astonishing! So they wait until the dies turn to mush before issuing designations? It's no secret how they high grade mushy Jefferson nickels. Wow!

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    Die state shouldn't matter if the feather has been polished off the die. I only see two feathers in the pics, but I'd have to look at it in hand to attempt to rationalize their explanation.

    I totally agree. I think a statement like that says a lot about the knowledge of this type of error of the person making it.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a 1915-D that I submitted to another grading service a while back, it only has 2 feathers but it didn't fit their diagnostics of an accepted 2 feather variety. I don't have the Fivaz book I think the diagnostics are in there.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a generic image of the 2 feather variety pictured therein. Here's a different image of the '15-D from my book. The small ridge of metal along the inside of the large feather is not, in my opinion, the remnant of the third feather as the relief is equal to the large feather. The small third feather is in much lower relief.

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