Toned Peace

56morgan · February 23, 2020 8:01PM

For those of us that enjoy toned Peace dollars, this eBay auction recently ended with a flurry of bids. I do not know enough to link the site so I will show a
screen shot instead.

Smudge · February 23, 2020 8:22PM

Saw that. Seller name is familiar to some here.

Musky1011 · February 23, 2020 8:27PM

Looks AT to me

Dave99B · February 23, 2020 8:31PM

Looks AT to me as well. Wow...

Dave

MFeld · February 23, 2020 8:31PM

@Musky1011 said:
Looks AT to me

Looks like a (probably) naturally toned coin with a juiced photo to me.

Dave99B · February 23, 2020 8:36PM

Mark, you may be right. Juiced up for dang sure.

Dave

DelawareDoons · February 23, 2020 8:43PM

I have been watching this auction. I am not sure what to make of it. The seller is a known seller of coins with questionable color. The fact one side is toned and the other is not raises my eyebrow towards real, though, as I am not sure how one would gas the slab in a manner that only creates toning on one side.

TomB · February 23, 2020 9:06PM

My interpretation was that the contrast was jacked-up just a biiiiiiiiiit too much!

ElmerFusterpuck · February 23, 2020 9:24PM

Damn, juicing was bad in sports and it's also bad in toned coin images. After looking at enough of them, you can spot the juicing.

airplanenut · February 23, 2020 9:38PM

My immediate thought was the photo was juiced. Might still be a nice coin, but I wouldn’t touch it at that price, not expect it to look like the photo.

291fifth · February 24, 2020 12:47AM

Not for me.

Jimnight · February 24, 2020 3:39AM

I like it.

Bigbuck1975 · February 24, 2020 5:02AM

It went to CAC and didn’t sticker for what it’s worth.

jmlanzaf · February 24, 2020 5:43AM

@Bigbuck1975 said:
It went to CAC and didn’t sticker for what it’s worth.

How do you know that?

Bigbuck1975 · February 24, 2020 5:45AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@Bigbuck1975 said:
It went to CAC and didn’t sticker for what it’s worth.

How do you know that?

I messaged the seller and he relayed that information back.

TwoKopeiki · February 24, 2020 5:56AM

I'm in the juiced-up images camp (contrast, vibrance, saturation)

fivecents · February 24, 2020 6:43AM

I'm in the "it's real toning camp".

Peace dollars don't tone like Morgan dollars. The whole series of peace dollars (bearly) even tone.

Heard it had to do with the US mints lubing the peace dollar dies with bear grease.

Cougar1978 · February 24, 2020 7:35AM

Toned Peace Dollars a fairly recent thing so I wonder....

Not a fan of them.

jmlanzaf · February 24, 2020 8:19AM

@Bigbuck1975 said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@Bigbuck1975 said:
It went to CAC and didn’t sticker for what it’s worth.

How do you know that?

Wow. Nice of him to be honest about it.

Smudge · February 24, 2020 8:24AM

Didn’t that seller get banned from posting here? Or someone with a similar name.

Catbert · February 24, 2020 4:04PM

@Smudge said:
Didn’t that seller get banned from posting here? Or someone with a similar name.

Yes - he was banned during the Disagree wars.

ACop · February 24, 2020 5:46PM

@Cougar1978 said:
Toned Peace Dollars a fairly recent thing so I wonder....

Not a fan of them.

Define recent? I've been collecting them for 15 years myself. And I know I wasnt the first.

Coin is beautiful but that price is nuts.

BryceM · February 24, 2020 9:56PM

It's kind of cool. I'd buy it for $50 or $60.

TomB · February 24, 2020 10:06PM

It's back up again from the same seller in a new auction. I don't know what happened to the previous auction.

OldIndianNutKase · February 24, 2020 11:49PM

The coin seems from the pics to be much better than MS64. Perhaps it was net graded because the toning is questionable.

OINK

nk1nk · February 25, 2020 6:22AM

That picture is exactly how true views look to me.

ACop · February 26, 2020 7:00AM

@nk1nk said:
That picture is exactly how true views look to me.

I consider true views juiced / artistic liberty in post editing as well but the kool aid is strong and true views get respect.

ACop · February 26, 2020 7:01AM

@TomB said:
It's back up again from the same seller in a new auction. I don't know what happened to the previous auction.

Do you have a link? I cant seem to find it. Found the seller, not the listing.

U1chicago · February 26, 2020 10:04AM

@ACop said:

@TomB said:
It's back up again from the same seller in a new auction. I don't know what happened to the previous auction.

Do you have a link? I cant seem to find it. Found the seller, not the listing.

It was briefly relisted but then taken down (potentially an accident).

GarrettO · February 27, 2020 6:57AM

I question the toning too. How is it that a target toning pattern can form on the obverse and absolutely nothing on the reverse???

ACop · February 27, 2020 10:01PM

@GarrettO said:
I question the toning too. How is it that a target toning pattern can form on the obverse and absolutely nothing on the reverse???

I'm not sure either way. But it is beautiful if NT. Do you also question the millions of toned morgans that tone on 1 side?

jerseycat101 · February 28, 2020 10:08AM

I don't like the toning at all.

GarrettO · February 28, 2020 10:30AM

@ACop said:

@GarrettO said:
I question the toning too. How is it that a target toning pattern can form on the obverse and absolutely nothing on the reverse???

I'm not sure either way. But it is beautiful if NT. Do you also question the millions of toned morgans that tone on 1 side?

I collect toned Morgans. Many toned on one side from bag toning. I just don't understand how a coin can target tone on one side and not the other. Target toning is from albums and envelopes. One would expect both sides to tone. That is what I question. How the one side would tone like this and not the other. Maybe from a coin cabinet? Color progression looks appropriate on this Peace dollar.

joeykoins · February 28, 2020 4:50PM

I always thought to believe when one side is toned and the other side not. Was a TRUE sign of the coin NT. Meaning, when cooked, usually both sides turn colors? 🤔

ACop · February 29, 2020 1:44AM

@GarrettO said:

@ACop said:

@GarrettO said:
I question the toning too. How is it that a target toning pattern can form on the obverse and absolutely nothing on the reverse???

I'm not sure either way. But it is beautiful if NT. Do you also question the millions of toned morgans that tone on 1 side?

I collect toned Morgans. Many toned on one side from bag toning. I just don't understand how a coin can target tone on one side and not the other. Target toning is from albums and envelopes. One would expect both sides to tone. That is what I question. How the one side would tone like this and not the other. Maybe from a coin cabinet? Color progression looks appropriate on this Peace dollar.

Chemical distributions can vary in small spaces on something like an album or an envelope. The old PCI slabs are a great example of one way a single side can tone while the back doesnt. Those PCI holders made some target tones, Ive seen it happen first hand on a coin I knew went from blast white in the slab to colorful.

MFeld · February 29, 2020 6:18AM

@joeykoins said:
I always thought to believe when one side is toned and the other side not. Was a TRUE sign of the coin NT. Meaning, when cooked, usually both sides turn colors? 🤔

What you thought is often not the case.

GarrettO · February 29, 2020 10:53AM

@ACop said:

@GarrettO said:

@ACop said:

@GarrettO said:
I question the toning too. How is it that a target toning pattern can form on the obverse and absolutely nothing on the reverse???

I'm not sure either way. But it is beautiful if NT. Do you also question the millions of toned morgans that tone on 1 side?

I collect toned Morgans. Many toned on one side from bag toning. I just don't understand how a coin can target tone on one side and not the other. Target toning is from albums and envelopes. One would expect both sides to tone. That is what I question. How the one side would tone like this and not the other. Maybe from a coin cabinet? Color progression looks appropriate on this Peace dollar.

Chemical distributions can vary in small spaces on something like an album or an envelope. The old PCI slabs are a great example of one way a single side can tone while the back doesnt. Those PCI holders made some target tones, Ive seen it happen first hand on a coin I knew went from blast white in the slab to colorful.

Thanks for clarifying.

U1chicago · March 1, 2020 7:16PM

It's back up as a buy-it-now for $6k or best offer.

Toned Peace

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